What's up with Chen Dong?

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  1. Danis

    Danis {(Harem Sect Leader)}{Trickster}&{Lurker}

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    what can you expect in here we got a lot reader who act like they know anything only read about 10 chapter and they already said slow blah blah blah dropped..............
     
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    i don't think there's issue with his works, it's just that he has a lot of fillers filled with the fact of slow translation ... you might take 5-20 years to get to read some of the works and aint anyone got time for that
     
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    you have to be fair, as well now, slow is slow. all of the works out as far as translations go even after all these year's idk of any of them that has passed or even reached 300. to be fair these thing's don't start to pick up until around chpt 50 or so. one's like WOI take even longer. reader's here also start out for the most part with thing's like manga. when they pick up a manga most use the first 3-5 chapters to judge, then and their "is this shit or treasure". a good review might make them take a second look, but if the thing is not even getting good reviews then idk what to say. while i do enjoy the work's not everyone can appreciate a good build-up. they might feel they were just being strung along for something that was never worth their time in the first place. I felt New Gate was just something that was building up with promise and waited for more, for 7 volume's that yielded no result. so i very much can understand the line of thinking.
     
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    Shrouding the Heavens is great but the first 50 chapters are a prologue so the ratings aren't that good.
     
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    Well some readers think they already know it all
     
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    The Sacred Ruins is definitely one of his best work.
    It got 1st place from Jan-April and it look like it going to take 1st place for this month with 79k subs vs A Will Eternal 58k subs.
     
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    Sircus [Well-Known God]

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    I argue that good stories are good from chapter 1. Your argument that if it´s good from chapter 1 then it must be a trash novel is just silly.
     
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    He has a thing for fillers. Sacred Ruins is good so far but some of the chapters are really unnecessary.
     
  10. My Pen is Mightier Than Swords

    My Pen is Mightier Than Swords ["Questioning the firmament"]

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    No lie really slow start, but it's better to just stack chapters and wait for the payoff. It worth it TBH
     
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    Welp, publisher is Qidian, so have fun while they last.
     
  12. HesheFell

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    Well yes. I did hate Shen Mu. It got a 1* from me. Anyone wanna kill me for it? After that, the only novel I've considered reading by him was World of Immortals. 70% reason is because I trust the translation.
     
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    There are things like world building ,mc bg, explanations to make senses etc.
    These things are lenghty so they are good read for people who love them, but for people who love fast pace, expecting "you spit me,i kill you" kind of thing from chap 1, it will just throw them off.
    You cant just expect every good novel to be good from chapter 1.

    EDIT: by "good" I don't mean fast pacing or something.
    Coz sometimes explaining about the world the author create and about mc life is pretty normal.
    Yes,pretty normal chapter.
    For example, in most Isekai novel (including good one and bad ones), in first few chapters, mc die, talk with god,basic explanation of word,get transported etc.
    Can you judge a novel will be good from just that?
    No you can't. You only get a glimpse of what the author would write about,
    If you say good novel must be good from chap 1, you are just another diehard fan.
    Coz we can't even certain the novel can be good or bad by reading around let's say 5 chapter.
     
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    IRainstorm Dark Sect Ancestor

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    If the novels with slow starts and progression were considered bad then all the classics and popular western novels would be considered bad which is ridiculous.

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    As a good writer, you must make your reader want to keep reading your story. First impression is important. If you talk about slow progression, issth also has slow progression. But er gen storytelling is really good, i always want to read another chapter. Menghao need hundreds of chapters to become core formation, and he keep fighting by throwing things until hundreds of chapters too. But the story is really good that make me keep reading it until now.

    Yeah you guys are right, i only read perfect world for 3 chapters, then i got boring. I never read it again ever since. But i only need to read 1 chapter of a will eternal to got hooked by its story. That is the different. I'm not kidding when i said i got hooked when i read 1 chapter of AWE. You guys can try it and see the difference
     
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    Damyabo [Butcher]

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    I didn't say that.
    How do you reach to a conclusion that I say such thing as slow novel=shit?
    I prefer good writing slow pacing one than just kill kill kill since chapter 1.
    What I mean is you can't judge a novel to be good or bad just from chapter 1.
     
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    IRainstorm Dark Sect Ancestor

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    No I wasn't talking to you, just using your message as basis for my own reply, lol sorry for the misunderstanding.
    to be fair, the first 59 chapters of Perfect World are a kind of a huge synopsis for the story, synopsis in western stories can be pretty bland and boring since you're thrown inside a world you don't know with rules you ignore and characters you don't care about yet.
    I can't blame you for dropping it and I'm not blaming anyone for that matter, but if you've left a bad rating based on that, then understand our frustration. :((n)
     
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    ok then. :)
    Back to the topic, Perfect world is kinda interesting imo.
     
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    Sircus [Well-Known God]

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    Actually I can, good from chapter 1 is a benchmark of a good novel. It has nothing to do with pacing. What you describe isn't a good novel its a novel with good parts. Plenty of them on RRL.

    I read a review once that said "The story gets good after chapter 200, you must read it". This is an example of what can never qualify as a good novel.
     
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    Damyabo [Butcher]

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    Ridiculous.
    In chapter 1 of Harry Potter:
    The only description you got is his father and mother and dead and the dark lord is defeated, and Harry is send to his aunt house.
    You must be an ESPer if you can judge a novel is good or bad from just that.:LOL::LOL:
    It is only world building, basic info about mc past and vivid description of Privet Drive.
    I can say it is interesting just from chapter 1, but I cant judge a novel is good or bad with that much info.
     
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