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  1. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    Well... Actually Kansai-ben as the Western Dialect is the dialect of prestige in pre-Shogunate era, since it was the dialect where Kyoto the Imperial Court located. But Modern Standard Japanese is a Eastern Dialect.
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  2. AliceShiki
    AliceShiki
    Oh... Then it's even more different than normal! >.<

    Thank you for clarifying then! \(^^)/
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  3. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    In Western, the perfect -u form is -oota/-uta, while Eastern is -atta
    for -su verbs its -ita in Western than -shita in Eastern.
    The command -ru verbs is ending in -yo or vocal elongation in Western, while Eastern changed it into-ro or -re
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  4. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    To form adverbial verbs, Western went putting -oo or -u, while Eastern put -ku
    Negative in Western is -nu or -n, while Eastern is -nai or -nee,
    Eastern use "iru", Western use "oru".
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  5. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    Comparing it with English, then its like comparing the Western Ingvaeonic Language (English+Scots) vs the Eastern Ingvaeonic (Frisian)
    While English and Scots had plethora of French/Norman loanwords, Frisian remain Germanic.
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  6. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    But since I can't/don't have enough to constitute Frisian language, and Frisian language is not mutually intelligible with English, I choose Scots who had borrowed many English form.
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  7. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    But since I can't really write Scots (I tried the result is deemed unreadable by reader), I made it intu funetik pseudo-Glaswegian.
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  8. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    Oh by Scots, I mean Lowland Scots language, Highland Scots language is Gaelic, not WestGermanic (Ingaveonic)
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  9. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    Example of Scots:
    Our Faither in heiven,
    be hallowt thy name ;
    thy Kíngdom come;
    thy will be dune
    on the yird, as in heiven.
    Gíe us our breid for this incomin day;
    forgíe us the wrangs we hae wrocht,
    as we hae foríen the wrangs we hae dree’d;
    an sey-us-na sairlie, but sauf us
    frae the Ill Ane:
    for the Kíngdom, the pouer an the glorie ar thine
    for ivver an aye. Amen.
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  10. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    If I turn all Kansai ben into proper Scots, the readers would turn in their chair...
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  12. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    Perhaps, the northern dialect (Tohoku) which can be unintelligible by Tokyo-ben speaker, is more like Frisian language I guess..
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  13. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    Example of Frisian:
    Us Heit, dy't yn de himelen is
    jins namme wurde hillige.
    Jins keninkryk komme.
    Jins wollen barre,
    allyk yn 'e himel
    sa ek op ierde.
    Jou ús hjoed ús deistich brea.
    En ferjou ús ús skulden,
    allyk ek wy ferjouwe ús skuldners.
    En lied ús net yn fersiking,
    mar ferlos ús fan 'e kweade.
    Want Jowes is it keninkryk en de krêft
    en de hearlikheid oant yn ivichheid. Amen
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  14. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    There is a trivia:
    Bûter, brea en griene tsiis is goed Ingelsk en goed Frysk
    Butter, bread and green cheese is good English and good Frise

    Funny is it?
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  15. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    When William the Bastard invade England from Normandy, Old Saxon/English and Old Frisian was mostly mutually intelligible, but years of French language onslaught (English) and Dutch language onslaught (Frisian), made English and Frisian, siblings with different attitude.
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  16. Yukkuri Oniisan
    Yukkuri Oniisan
    I am really bored, right...
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  17. AliceShiki
    AliceShiki
    Thank you very much for the trivia!!! I enjoyed reading through it!

    And I'm glad you didn't turn it into Frisian! I can't read a single thing in that!!! >.<

    On the other hand, the Scot part is fairly easy to understand, so I like that quite a bit, the way you changed it a bit to make it easier also helped though!
    Mar 29, 2017
  18. AliceShiki
    AliceShiki
    Thank you very much for the hard effort you put into it! I really love this series! And your translation just makes it even better!!!!!
    Mar 29, 2017