Cleaning up tags on NU

@DeathStroke96
There was a previous discussion about this iirc. At some point tony was suppose to convert the "Reincarnation" into a genre and the purpose of the "Reincarnated into Another World" was to tell us what type of reincarnation it was because there are cases where the MC isn't reincarnated into another world. Also we can't have "Another World" as a tag because it would conflict with "Alternate World", and "Parallel World"

 

thanks for the heads up

 

I started a thread about this but I guess it goes here instead,

@Parth37955

The 'Fortuitous Event' tag should be removed, it is incredibly vague and it includes just about every xianxia and xuanhuan

 

I agree to this, seems way too generic to me.

 

@runsing what do you say? Fortuitous Event is a plot point for..pretty much every series, whether it is JP,KR or CN. Heck,even for standard English fiction. I second this.

 

What does "Alternative Future" even mean? There's no "real" future yet to have alternate versions of. Looking at the novels tagged with it, there's no real consistency either; it mostly seems to mean "a world similar to modern day Earth exists in the setting's history", but even that's kind of a stretch for some of them.

In none of the cases does it tell you anything about the story that's not already obvious, and given how rarely it's used (only 13 novels), I suggest removing it entirely.

 

If I were to guess, I'd say that the meaning of it would be of an Earth that had some difference in its development that lead to a future different than what we can expect.

Another possibility would be an story that split into different timelines, and they have vastly different futures due to a difference in one choice.

For the 1st there is Alternate World tag, for the 2nd there is the Multiple Timelines tag.

So, I agree, it should be removed.

 

alternative future should not be removed without providing/replacing with suitable tags. removing any tag because the amount of novel using it is low is an incorrect approach. A.F is a world setting sub-description. a the very least, use futuristic setting (+alternate world if needed) for it

 

*whistles*

I definitely didn't just remove it after talking it out with people on the convo... I'll take a look at the series that had it and see if they need something to substitute it! >.<

That aside, the main problem with the tag IMO was not the number of series it had, but that it didn't quite say what it meant, so I think it did need a removal.

 

I did some looking into them, the tag seemed to be mostly worthless, but I added a substitute in the case it seemed necessary.

 

when do we use futuristic setting?
our world / or not our world but has advance science
not in current, or near future ( <100years)
companion world setting : post-apocalyptic / apocalypse / alternate world / magic

when do we use alternate world?
our world, but has magic/monsters
companion world setting : modern day / medieval / ancient times

when do we use alternative future?
our world
not in current, or near future ( <100years)
not necessarily have advance science (technology regression)
companion world setting : post-apocalyptic / apocalypse / magic

as you can see from the example above, FS is the closest to AF, but FS by itself unable to properly describe world setting. now, i'm not against removing AF, but it should be compensated with other world setting tag, depending on the story

btw, all example above did not include genre.

 

Well, I'm looking at it again, but well, the main problem was that it was a tag used in lots of things that completely went against this definition:

Like, there is an Otome Game Reincarnation; One from a world that is not ours; Fantasy setting; Fantasy Setting; Fantasy Setting; One that seems to be from another world, but I'm not sure; Reincarnation with Fantasy setting; One that actually fits, but already has Parallel Worlds, and I think it's enough for it; One that actually seemed to fit for once; Another world altogether; One that fits; xianxia; xianxia; one that fits.

So... Those were the 14 series, most of them weren't really related to the tag... I added Alternate World to the few that actually fitted though.

 

Like I said, Alternative Future didn't actually give any additional information on any of the novels that had it.

One was a "reincarnated into an otome game" story. Near as I can tell, the tag was only there because the MC changed the future of the game, which occurs in every single novel in that genre that has ever existed, since that's the point of the genre. The tag is entirely useless there.
One was technically in the future compared to when it was written (published in 2003, set in 2013), but that's too close to the present to really tag it as any kind of future setting. And it wasn't just the future that "differed" from our world, it was also the present and past.
I think another three were less than 100 years in the future.
One was alternate past, not future at all.
A couple were just post-apocalyptic, and already tagged as such.
A couple were under the "mecha" genre, which basically gives the same information that "alternative future" did and then some.
Close to half the novels with the tag, if I remember right, didn't have advanced technology (or it was only advanced because of magic, which is covered by other tags).

The tag really was useless.

 

Ahem we do have a choice in replacing the alternate future tag and that is using 2 tags:

Alternate World + Futuristic Setting

 

The slime tag appears to have been completely removed. Should this be corrected?

 

The general consensus was that instead of having individual tags for each and every type of monster/creature we can just group them.

 

Would it be alright to start adding tags regarding completion status in COO?

 

please elaborate.

if it's just adding a tag 'completed', then no.