So this is a thought which has been rolling about in my mind for a while now, the idea that doing bad things to bad people is acceptable because they are bad people. Now one of the things I enjoy the most about the Asian novels is how they do not stick their main characters to the traditional hero roles (and I don't mean the anti hero role either like wolverine or something). Stories like Koe no Katachi or Youjo Senki give us characters who would verbally be placed in the role of an antagonist and tell the story from there. Koe no Katachi's main character is probrably as petty of a villain as they come, an elementary school bully. (To be honest I was so put off by it at first I immediately dropped the manga only to get back into it later #gotbulliedinelementary) yet he is still our main character and despite the "bad things" he does and the "bad person" he is, the mangaka doesn't stick to the standard "bad things to bad people is ok" idea and what happens to him makes us feel bad. Youjo Senki is another one. The actions she takes can very easily be considered evil, and many people immediately call her out on being a bad person for it. Along with that they attached the title of Nazi onto her. While yes, the Empire is based of the German army, and yes calling an artillery strike on civilians is a horrifying thing, so what about bombing cities? The main thing bothering me here is the lack of criticism of the bombing of Germany and Japan in WW2, and the artillery strikes and bombing strikes carried out in Korea and Vietnam during their respective wars. Is their being bombed considered "ok" since they were "bad people"? People are more than eager to call out the merciless attack of civilians in a fiction world, but in the real world, so long as they are "bad people" it seems to be ok. Tldr: is doing bad things so bad people ok to you?
Nothing is better then fuck up bad people with the same coin and see them feel what they did to others and most of the time those people break easy since they are cowards most of the time
the two nuclear bombs drops were considered acceptable due the fact that they effectively ended the war. a war that would take the better part of a decade due to persisentace of japoneses (after all there were even soldiers that without order during 20 year continued fighting).
They can just say that it is a necessary evil. Doesn't matter if Hitler brainwashed most of the German people. Doesn't matter if old Japanese tradition was of utmost loyalty to the Emperor. Since the winner gets to write the history, everything should be just okay by downplaying their evils and intensifying the evil of the defeated foe.
What does verbally placed mean? I've done bad things to bad people when I was younger, but I regretted it as I got older. Also, I've been in a position numerous times in which others may have perceived me as a bad person too
Just look at heroes movies, whatever the heroes do to bad people ( tortue, killing, etc) in all people eyes the always hero right
Personally, I don't think I would do bad things to others,no matter who they are. Unless they piss me off. I feel that terming someone 'bad' is redundant.
It's mostly lessening the guilt when the target is a bad person. and justifying that it is okay if they are bad person is actually to run away from a bit of guilt left in them.
It's all about perspectives, its usually the victors that live on to record their perspectives as history. Doing bad things to bad people? Once again its perspectives, some people consider these bad things to be the consequences of the perpetrator's actions, some justify it as some means of punishment and others believe that the victors are no better than the bad people. Now back to the question, Honestly, it depends on the severity of the crime/situation. But then again, I'm just a hypocrite living a hypocritical life~
I feel like a sadist's viewpoint is abut biased here...so, yes, it's perfectly acceptable to watch people beg for mercy and scream way the top of their lungs. Provided you pay their medical bills, of course.
well it will still be put in a discussion 'cause according to some Japan is already ready to surrender to the US even before little boy was dropped due to the impending Soviet invasion of the Japanese Isle back then. So yeah
Nothing is good Nothing is bad Everything is just a matter of perspective All of it is for nothing For we serve no real purpose.
In the Chinese novels heroes always do bad things to bad people and I love them for it. I think of western novels where Harry Potter and his friends wouldn't even kill Voldemort or his followers and compare that to almost every translated novel which would have harry get revenge on the death eaters and exterminate 9 generations of their families
Small correction. I don't think anybody has really said that bombing Germany & Japan was "ok". Any argument pertaining to that has largely been about early ending of the war caused less casualties overall. And for the Vietnam war, there was some backlash. People weren't really fine with what the U.S. army was doing even among the Americans. You probably don't hear much criticism of it these days because its not exactly recent news...
There are things that is acceptable IRL and in fiction. In fiction, as long as you are the MC then even if you are bad/evil it doesnt really matter because the story revolves around you. IRL is different, if what you did is something that kills the life of others and the world as a whole thinks its wrong then youre the bad guy and deserving of death. As for reference please read the Tate No Yuusha chapters regarding the Hero of the Bow (mostly during the time he is being captured and taken in by Naofumi)