Feedback on the Ai-chan Method

Discussion in 'Translator's Corner' started by GM_Rusaku, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. GM_Rusaku

    GM_Rusaku Neptune-sama's Devoted Follower

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    @Ai chan recently released a new chapter with her polished anti-theft method and she is asking for feedback and bug reports.
    I already reported some to Ai chan and it will be helpful if you readers can test her method and give your thoughts.
    Also please put the platform you are using (PC, Mobile, Tablet), the OS and their versions (Windows, Mac, Android, apple os), the browser you're using and it's version.

    These are the things that was already reported to Ai chan
    Please help as it will be a huge load on Ai chan if she can know the problems and bugs to fix.
    And suggestions are also welcome.
     
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  2. GM_Rusaku

    GM_Rusaku Neptune-sama's Devoted Follower

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    Almost forgot... @Ai chan I'm also reporting this.
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    The "Another" is lapping out of the frame.
     
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  3. Solus

    Solus 自分のことお嫌いです

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    The content was longer than the box size, causing the paragraph to end in another page with no way to read back the other page

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  4. Kagami Ren

    Kagami Ren General of Satans 5th army

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    What?? I am confused is that a Novel or Visual Novel? It's very gamelike,, [You can't seems to scroll back or preview and the Text loads too slow it makes you want to wait like 4-5 sec before reading to load all text and avoid accidents/ multiply clicks.] if it is a novel.
     
  5. GM_Rusaku

    GM_Rusaku Neptune-sama's Devoted Follower

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    It's a novel, @Ai chan just used an interface similar to a visualnovel. And you can actually double click to make all the text quickly appear.
     
  6. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Aiyah, sorry about that. It displayed correctly on my preview, but the behaviour must've been screwed when I put it up on wordpress. I'll fix it right away, please check again after a few hours.
     
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  7. inclement

    inclement Well-Known Member

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    I don't like it (I tried it on PC in firefox):
    • it shows too little of the story on that small box
    • I have to click after each paragraph
    • I can't easily skim through it or go back to read something I might have missed
    • Again it's just a pain to read, compared with just easily scrolling through a page with the mouse wheel
    Although I understand your frustration with aggregators and people stealing your work, if I would have to deal with something like this, I would chose not to read that novel and just read something else.
     
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  8. ilhan1104

    ilhan1104 Well-Known Member

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    How about using image? Because when i read it in my android firefox. I cant tap next in the story
     
  9. GM_Rusaku

    GM_Rusaku Neptune-sama's Devoted Follower

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    Image is a no go, tried it and my readers didn't liked it. And it can still be stolen.
     
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    ilhan1104 Well-Known Member

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    But i cant continue to next paragraph
     
  11. GM_Rusaku

    GM_Rusaku Neptune-sama's Devoted Follower

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    Lemme PM @Ai chan ,
    Ai chan we have another problem here, seems like mobile firefox cant proceed toward the chapter's next page.
     
  12. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Do you have a screenshot I can see? If I know which section, I may be able to narrow down the search area.

    I've uploaded a fix. Please try again. The texts should be a bit smaller now. If it's the same problem, then clear your cache. I've already deleted the cause of the problem on the server.
     
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  13. ilhan1104

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    I think the problem is the browser because when i use another browser i can continue to the next paragraph.

    Stuck at the first paragraph (mobile firefox)
     
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  14. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Also to @GM_Rusaku, since you asked for this feature first.

    I've added a 'History' button in the menu. With this, you can scroll back to the past 10 lines. Don't worry, you can close it and go back to the main contents anytime. The main content will not reset. 10 lines may not sound like a lot, but it's actually a huge number of words, considering that each paragraph is considered a 'line'. I originally removed this feature because it makes it way too easy to copy, but nah, people want the feature, so I readded it.

    This should partially answer @inclement 's complain about the method. I can of course increase the amount of letters in each page, but it may cause issues with different devices. I'm already having a problem ensuring that as many devices as possible can use this.

    Also, if there is a demand for pc, android or iphone version, I can program it, but there must be a demand. It's a bit of work to make 4 separate designs.
     
  15. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    kay here we go
    os window(duh) 7 ultimate sp1 (don't ask it's pretty old lap) 64 bit
    browser(no not the one who like to kidnap a certain proncess) firefox 48.0.2
    btw addblock is on~

    okay i try save and hit load of corse after try read part 1
    huehuehue nothing happened then I try click prologue and chapter 1 again nothing happen can't read just stare.......................
    as for skip is that normal to something lke hmm blink blink and I can't read at all?
    I thought skip is fast forward but I can still read

    and that loading title when it still black I click and reset to loading again huehue my data
    T T.png will check later
     
  16. runsing

    runsing status : bleeding, health -10/s Novel Updates Staff

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    windows phone
    built-in microsoft edge browser
    monument browser (all 3 screenshots)


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    compared to earlier, it is a bit faster loading now. ~5sec monument, ~10sec edge

    my suggestion
    1) previous page button
    2) make the black box bigger. as of now, it is too small
    3) make the faster text speed as default. with current one i find my eyes unavoidably focused on the moving text. in longer reading, this will tire the eyes more, imho
    4) please fill the box more. 2-3 paragraph at least

    bug
    on ms edge, i cannot scroll down once i reach the pictures, the area above the picture sort of 'disable' my touch, except for the reading/info button
     
  17. Scrya

    Scrya Lurking all day long~

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    I'm still having trouble opening it with mobile chrome like before. The title screen loads, but I just can't seem to press on anything. :/ (Samsung Galaxy S7, Ver 6.0.1)
     
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  18. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Yea, I optimized the coding a little bit just now. But it probably only cut down like 3-7 seconds of loading time, depending on internet speed.

    1) Previous page button is a bit tricky, considering how I designed the program. Sure, it's my fault, but I did it because it was easier for me to do so. I'll fix it in the coming chapters. For now, you can probably be satisfied with the 'History' feature in the menu which shows the last 10 lines. Don't scoff. The last 10 lines is equal to the last 10 paragraphs, that's a lot of words.
    2) Making it bigger is easy. I will queue it for chapter 2.
    3) I can increase the text speed, but you just tap again on the black box to make it write a lot faster. I'll experiment with the speed soon.
    4) With bigger black box, sure. I can fit more. Expect it for chapter 2.
     
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  19. SnowTime

    SnowTime Busy Busy Busy, I Dug Too Many Holes

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    Ohh, it works perfectly well on my google chrome browser on laptop, just rip mobile XD
     
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  20. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    Are you not able to tap on the Start Reading or Story Info?