Spoiler I'm in Hollywood

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  1. Eldiabloalchemia

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    1. Does he write novels like Harry Potter? They were high grossing films
    2. How does he deal with CAA and other enemies ?
    3. What happens with Stuart's parents and Drew?
    4. How does he buy the tech companies and invent ipod etc?
     
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    1. He writes Resident Evil (RE4 into book and later a movie) and The Matrix IIRC. Later on he doesn't have enough time to write more famous novels, so he just licenses the rights. Harry Potter he meets JK Rowling personally to license the rights.
    2. With money and future knowledge, usually. Knowing which movies will be blockbusters and which will be busts is a huge advantage. CAA he leaks their business model publicly so other agencies will copy them and break their monopoly. Michael Eisner he tricks into making "Cutthroat Island" to tank Disney stock so he can take them over and fire him. Stuff like that.
    3. Stuart's parents aren't too important later. Stuart's child acting career is hardly mentioned. Drew stays important throughout the story (way too much stuff happens to recount here).
    4. He founds Yahoo and Google before they would have been founded in the original timeline. The other companies/patents he buys when they're cheap. Future knowledge cheat is huge.
     
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    Thanks for the reply
    1.Why does Eisner become enemies with the MC? They seemed cordial
    2. Do you have link to the free raw?
    3. How do he & Drew get together and what about Drew's film career? What is the update about Aniston?
    4. Does he start his own Music company?
     
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    1. Eisner plotted with Blount Cohen to steal his Home Alone money, then later he forms a conspiracy to smear Eric in the press which forces Aniston to break up with him.
    2. Google the Chinese title.
    3. The part with meeting Drew is already in the translated chapters. I don't remember what chapter they "get together" exactly. IIRC she gets mostly out of acting and into producing pretty early on. Aniston is hardly mentioned until she and Eric get back together somewhat recently (Ch. 900+)
    4. Kind of, but it's small. He's tried to acquire several music labels to integrate but since he knows record companies crash in the early 2000s he refuses to overpay. The big music thing he owns is Yahoo Music (basically iTunes), which is pretty much the only digital music store right now.
     
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    1. How does he takeover Pixar & how does he deal with Steve Jobs?
    2. Does he change Titanic in anyway? Changes in other movies or TV show(ex: Friends)?
    3. What is the best business deal he does?
    4. How does Drew become MGM owner?
     
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    1. He buys it straight up. Pixar is losing money and he buys it well before they make "A Bug's Life" for Disney. He never "deals with" Steve Jobs directly, he just makes all the good products before Apple can so they'll never recover like in our world.
    2. For Titanic he casts Rachel Weisz instead of Kate Winslet, and writes "My Heart Will Go On" for the end credits. I think he also spends even more money than in our timeline. For Friends he recasts Chandler because Matthew Perry is too expensive (he had played Marv in his Home Alone). When writing the plots he also skips most of the less-popular first season episodes where the interactions between the cast are still developing, and jumps right into the good stuff.
    3. Best, huh? Really hard to say. In terms of investment/payoff ratio Home Alone is still probably #1. In terms of sheer profit some of his investments in big companies are still growing. Persian Gulf War oil speculation was huge, as was his taking advantage of the Asian Financial Crisis. Selling the Disney hand-drawn animation department right after the Lion King's success was also genius.
    4. It's complicated and I may forget part of it, so pardon me. MGM takes a lot of foreign investment and loses money on its films. The bank holding a lot of their debt (Crédit Lyonnais) gets worried they'll defaut, so while Eric is fixing the Eurodisney fiasco (see Wikipedia) they come over and talk to him. He helps form a new subsidiary of MGM (called Dreamworks) using investment from Eric and from foreign investors, with MGM providing the distribution and intellectual property (basically James Bond). Using Bond, Mission: Impossible, and Charlie's Angels, he creates a Secret Agents movie universe so Dreamworks makes a ton of money. They pay off the debt and merge with the parent company to form a new MGM group. Oh, and Eric's shares (~40%) are under Drew's name to avoid antitrust oversight, so she's in charge of the new company.
     
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    I didn't see a single bullsh*t in the spoilers that i usually hate in this kind of novel, i better save the author's name lol
     
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    Thanks for your answers and sorry for pestering you.
    1. Can you list all the changes Eric does to all the different movies and TV series he is involved in? Differences from the real life versions
    2. How does he deal with antitrust issues? Does he buys Google from Larry Page & Sergey Brin and is he a trillionaire yet?
    3.Does he have any kids and with whom? Any info on his mom? What about happens with Jen Aniston throughout the story?
    4. How does he finally make Home Alone 2? Stuart's parents were behaving like dicks
     
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    1. Plot-wise most of the movies don't change. Eric doesn't know what makes the movies popular necessarily, so he mostly makes casting changes only. A partial list from memory below.

    Home Alone - mostly no-name actors, except a young Matthew Perry as Marv.
    Pretty Woman - Al Pacino replaces Richard Gere
    Sleepless in Seattle - Nicole Kidman replaces Meg Ryan
    Twister - Joanna Pacula replaces Helen Hunt
    Jurassic Park - Helen Hunt replaces Laura Dern
    Ghost - Nicholas Cage and Bridget Fonda replace Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore
    Casino Royale - Pierce Brosnan stays on as Bond instead of Daniel Craig. This movie is next after Goldeneye, so Tomorrow Never Dies, World is Not Enough and Die Another Day disappear. Also he works in a crossover with Charlie's Angels and Ethan Hunt from Mission Impossible
    Mission Impossible - Kevin Costner replaces Tom Cruise
    The Others - Virginia Madsen replaces Nicole Kidman
    Basic Instinct - Diane Lane replaces Sharon Stone
    Titanic - Rachel Weisz replaces Kate Winslet
    The Mummy series (not made by Eric) - Nicole Kidman replaces Rachel Weisz
    Bad Boys 1 + 2 - IIRC Will Smith is too expensive after Independence Day and Men In Black so they recast both him and Martin Lawrence with no-name actors.
    Charlie's Angels - Charlize Theron, Kate Beckinsale, and Penelope Cruz replace Drew Barrymore, Lucy Liu, and Cameron Diaz
    Iron Man - Eric replaces Robert Downey Jr. (who he approached for the role only to find he was just entering rehab. Bad timing since he started the series a few years earlier).
    EDIT: Resident Evil movies has Kelly Hu as Ada Wong and follows the plot of RE4 instead of having a separate movie universe.
    Bonus TV series: X-files - Famke Jannsen and Brad Pitt replace Gillian Anderson and David Duchovney

    2. Antitrust was only a problem once, when he owned both a studio and an agency. He sells the agency to fix it. It's been discussed later but it's never been a problem. He makes Google himself before Page and Brin, as part of Yahoo. Steals the name of both companies from this world. He's not a trillionaire (at least not in USD) but his net worth is so far beyond the next person (Gates) it's pretty ridiculous. Something like $150B to $40B.

    3. He's had kids with Joanna Pacula and Virginia Madsen. They've got a house in the Hamptons together where he spends the holidays. Emma Roberts also often lives there with her aunt Julia.
    He does meet his mother later. It's revealed she's a descendant of British nobility. I don't remember if we're ever given a reason why she never contacted him
    Jennifer Aniston leaves Eric (and the story) after a scandal breaks out around chapter 300, and doesn't reappear until somewhere around 900.

    4. They were still behaving like dicks, so Eric threatened to recast the role. At that point Stuart wasn't making as much money from acting as from endorsements (nobody wanted to hire a child actor that expensive). Recasting would have stopped that gravy train, so they caved.
     
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    Thanks Bob.
    What exactly is the controversy that causes Aniston to break up with him and does it affect Friends Tv show? Why & How does Eisner get involved? Isn't it better for him to work with MC?
     
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    ? I thought Cameron Diaz was originally one of angels...
     
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    Can anyone tell me some milestones wealth-wise? How old was he when he became the richest man in America? The the world? Also, how rich is he in the lastest chapters of the raws(plz give me a number)? How do people react when they learned that he has so much money at such a young age?
    One last question: can you tell me who he slept with? Make me jealous
     
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    It's a conspiracy to ruin Eric's reputation and finances and force him to sell part of his company. Eisner is the mastermind, but the other studios join in. Part of it is accusing him of sleeping with Drew (statutory rape), part of it is publicizing the many women he's slept with, part of it is antitrust harassment. Since his company only makes big hits, they're sucking away a disproportionate part of box office profits and the other studios hate that. Aniston leaves because even though she knows about the other women it's humiliating being cheated on in public. Nothing changes with Friends because Eric had already stopped writing for it after writing the first season (and directing the first episode). (Edit: I'm pretty sure Aniston's dad is actually the producer, not Eric. My bad.)

    Also it's kind of a bummer but I felt like that conspiracy was the last time Eric was seriously in any sort of peril plot-wise. He's just way too powerful and strong (financially) now, plus he still has his future knowledge cheat for another 15+ years of movie hits and stock tips.

    Honestly I've forgotten most of the numbers. They get crazy quickly because he literally never fails. Maybe $200B as of the latest raws? Somewhere in that range. Surprisingly we don't hear a lot of resentment about his wealth, maybe because he started out with nothing and built his empire instead of inheriting it.

    For a list of his "conquests" I've already listed those I remember in this comment. There are probably a lot more I've forgotten.
     
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    1. Which chapter does he meet his mom? What is the story behind her? Any more details
    2. Which chapter does he make Home Alone 2?
    3. How does he get together with Elizabeth Murdoch?
     
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    Do you think the novel will end soon or there is still a long way to go ?
     
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    1.
    When he's in London on business he hires a girl (Caroline Wilson, original character) as a tour guide who is also a Cambridge student and descendant of nobility. IIRC her grandfather is an Earl. Her roommate happens to be Rachel Weisz, which is where Eric gets the idea to have her play Rose from Titanic. Later he runs into her again at Harvard Business School after a meeting in Boston, and is impressed that she understand his business strategy with Yahoo/Cisco/AOL. He hires her (and her roommate) into his personal staff after graduation, where she later becomes one of his personal assistants. He is attracted to her but sees a picture of her aunt and is disturbed because it looks like his mother, so he secretly gets a DNA test. It proves that they're cousins, and her aunt is his mother. Meanwhile she's fallen in love with him but he's keeping her at arms length. He finally reveals the truth to her in 982 and meets his mother in 986.
    2. Starts shooting in 247, but negotiations and such are before that.
    3. After signing the cooperation deal with Fox, Rupert Murdoch wants Elizabeth to learn some of the family business. She becomes good friends with Julia Roberts (and later lovers). She shadows Eric while he's filming Sleepless in Seattle and gets to know him then. She's a tsundere by the way. Hers and Eric's relationship is essentially Slap Slap Kiss (tvtropes warning).

    If you want to MTL I recommend you use the Google Translate extension for Google Chrome. I have mine set to auto-translate Chinese and Japanese to English. I know MTL is hard to read but for this novel it's better than most because most of the vocabulary is modern, not fantasy. I did have to occasionally look up titles, but it's readable.

    I don't know if it's anywhere near finished. What's the natural ending point for a series like this? In most xianxia novels it ends right when the MC becomes the strongest of all, but Eric's been the richest in the world for like 500+ chapters at least. At least there was no sign up until around Ch. 1030, where I've stopped reading for now.
     
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    Most Doovers end when the MC reachest his original timeline and theres still 14/15 years until that happens so we can expect a couple of hundred chapters more.
     
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    I was super confused for a few seconds about what a Doover was until I realized you meant do-over. I think the NU tag is "Second Chance".

    You might be right about it ending right when his future knowledge cheat expires. The other second chance novels I've read usually had the MC die being chased down by enemies and still ended when the MC reached the peak of strength, but those were Xianxia/Xuanhuan novels, not modern fantasy. The closest thing I've read to this novel was "Almighty Athlete", which had a really abrupt ending (and a pretty thin premise, though it was a pretty fun and silly read).
     
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    1. What are the advancements that Eric brings to film technology (Ex: CGI, 3D etc.) from ahead of its time?
    2. How does he turnaround Disneyland Europe? Does he expand into European Media market?
    3. Does Eric retain the copyrights on the characters (ex: Lion King, Micky Mouse) when he sells off the animation department?
    4. How does he expand into the fashion industry? Does he buy any print media?