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Normally I don't mind Zhang Ye and his patriotism. But this is taking things a bit too far. Because he don't like Japanese people and basically worship the Chinese. He is just basically gonna say fuck you and not do the speech because they wanted him to add a few lines. This fucking Zhang Ye needs to realize this is no longer a personal problem or Peking Uni's problem but a problem of national level. This fucker is basically ruining the relationship between two country's because "Hey guess what? Fuck you" Jesus If I was there I would've smacked him and say this shit ain't your personal problem but the problem of peace with two fucking country's. It's not your place to bitch around. But then again meh just like they said they could've probably found someone else to do it. But then again Zhang Ye is the one who solved the Dale problem so he is the best to go up.
TLDR: I don't like this chapter of Zhang Ye's Patriotism.

 

Don't forget what the Japanese did to China during WW2 and how they never really apologized.

 

if ur gonna talk about what the Japanese did to China during WW2 than you have to talk about WHAT CHINA DID TO THEMSELVE hell, MAO u know how many people he fcking killed? Communism? Bs this is just another massacre. killed 45 million in four years 45mlllion fcking people. More than the whole world's casualties during world war 2 gosh, whats wrong with you? blaming japan when u really need to blame yourselves for being a hypocritical piece of shit.

DID MAO EVER APOLOGIZED?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DID FKCING MONGOLIANS APOLOGIZED?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SO WHY SHOULD JAPAN APOLOGIZE FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS PART OF ZEITGEIST THEN! do u fcking know whats sa zeitgeist even mean? ignorant piece of sht. DONT forget my ass

 

Do you honestly think that anyone in China could write about Mao and not have it positive.

 

Every country is shitty.

 

I don't know why some reader haye zhang ye patriotism ... As far as i read only unreasonable patriotism zhangye commited is when he refused to make his english name other than that i believe author give enough reason for his outrage
And in this japanese arc we can see zhang ye doesn't angry with the Japanese in bus problem event he silve the problem quite wisely
And i think about the speech is also reasonable he will conduct speech abouth math to many international delegation not only japanese but department ask him to add few lines of praise to japanese in front of many other countries delegation he have the right to refuse....and i don't see the point of problem will rising internationally or officially if he doesn't praise japanese except if his original speech insulted them then the university have a right to change it

 

hi all! i read a lot of comment about the patriot problem .i thinks its kind of true ,its not cause he love his country that he sould dt appreciate other's .its not as heavy as in thunder hevenly manual though. i just hope we could see some kind of evolution in ZANG idiologism like in every novels,the MC must grows up in staying true to his belif.In IRAS every other foreign character are just dum people so zang smacking their face should not be a problem till he dont start a "all japenese" "all korean" things like "all jew. xD hope u all the best!

 

That's what i talking about, most of zhang ye problem qith foreigner is have a basist or a enough reason, like in korea hacking arc he already pkanned to back off after first warning and with American he just angry qhen insukted but not make it any bigger

 

Chap 561 (spoiler part): the relief money was sent by the Japanese gov, but was used by the Chinese gov for industrial development. Is this true? could somebody give a proofed/official source?

 

You know they were asking for trouble when they asked Zhang Ye to speak, what did they think would happen knowing his reputation around speaches?

 

Yes and it's call Chauvinism and you'll be seeing that a lot more in this novel and there's really nothing you could do about it beside not reading it.
Also anyone reading this, before you say it's racist please used the correct terminology:
Racism:rejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different RACE based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Chauvinism:exaggerated or aggressive Patriotism.

 

People here love the JP cause of anime etc, and then they start to think it's alright to pretend (lol, haha) that nothing happened.

Personally I think it's okay for you to think that no more hate should be stimulated, I think so too, commercial relationships should be stimulated too.

But this doesn't mean that the chinese (nor the korean, that if I remember correctly suffered a lot too) must have a real friendly relationship and forget everything, life is not like this and humans are not robots. The war is still too young for you to think you have the "right" to ask this from them.

 

Zhang Ye's rant wouldn't be a problem if the anger was aimed at the people in charge, who (I guess?) are refusing to admit any mistakes their country committed. I really haven't looked into the acts of war between China and Japan in any great detail, so I won't comment on that. But hating all the people that live in a country for the acts of people that are a huge minority and probably mostly dead at this point, seems irrational. And Zhang Ye seems to dislike most non-Chinese people. I really hate nationalism in all its forms, because it just seems so meaningless - people are individuals and living inside one drawn line on the map instead of another has very little to do with that. I definitely wouldn't want to be lumped together with my countrymen - judge me on my own merits and actions, not those of others who just happen to share my geographical location.

 

Mm, this is true, but that is for the western concept of nationalism. In China being a nationalist is not something that can be defined by geographical borders, it's something more that involves your being, your education, your believes and your way of thinking. From what I read about it I can say that, at least in the ancient times, but even now there's still the remnant of that thought, being a Han is not due to your blood, but your way of living: if you as a westerner go to China and make a family and your children grow up there, they will be Han like them, because the Chinese nationalism is a lifestyle, not a political view.

In Europe nationalism is abhorred because of all that has happened in the history, nazis, fascism etc but we shouldn't - like you said - put everything together. Different cultures have different ways of expressing themselves, not all type of nationalism are wrong, it shouldn't be anyway ^-^

 

Eh, I don't know. It's a trope you see a lot in scifi where the dystopic future has no countries - there is only a world government. Or maybe countries have been replaced by corporations. I would prefer to live in that dystopia than what we currently have. I really don't care about where I live as long as I can live comfortably.

While I probably embody some of my country's culture aside from holidays, most of my habits, ideologies and life philosophies have formed over time based on the books and articles I've read, the games I've played, the TV series and movies I've watched and the conversations I've had with people on the internet. If you could quantify my whole being and analyze my "nationality" and "culture", the results would consist mostly of internet and memes. And while I'm saying that in sort of a self-deprecating way, I think I'm better for it. If I had grown up without all that, without the internet, I could've easily turned into one of those misogynistic racists that now seem to be coming out of the woodwork, due to immigration issues worldwide and Trump.

I guess I went off-topic there a bit, but tl;dr - treating people badly or even harming them because they do not share your culture, are not from your country or do not believe in the same (or any) god, is really bad. While I would settle for a dystopia, I would obviously prefer a utopia where people are enlightened and treat others humanely. We're all citizens of the Earth.

 

It's quite shocking after the update of iras in this arc i can see many views of people regarding nationalism or nationalist
From what i can understood i can see because western people is people that love and respect individuality their views of nationalism is not that high
But for most asian people that realky respect family. Culture and home or land our views of nationalism is very important to our life

 

Mm, I'm not really informed about the US culture but I suppose it is something you either love to death or hate to the core. The ideology of liberty, freedom and the right to happiness it's all good until you see what America has really done to the world. If you listen to one of Martin Jacques talks on TEDtalks about China you would understand that the government is viewed in a different way by the society, there's a sort of hierarchy, the government is a sort of "father" that "protects "the Chinese culture, the Han Culture that has been formed almost 2000 years ago..

In regards to dystopian worlds, some people may say that communist or a socialist countries are like the totalitarian world described by Orwell in 1984, and this may be true if those country had a little more power, were more independent and their citizens were more stupid.
BUT at the same time I think that some western countries like America too are dystopian worlds, with their ideals of democracy and justice they deceive the world and their citizen, and this could be considered even worse than China because some people don't even know that, and they live believing that their way of living is the best of all.
At the end it all end up to be a choice, what kind of dystopian country in the real world are you willing to bear more, what kind of acts are you willing to recognise as the one done by "you" because you "belong" to that place. Like how all Germans have to bear the responsibility of the holocaust, we too have to be responsible of the action of our country, one way or the other.
Sincerely speaking I really don't like how america has behaved in its economic relation with the middle east countries, the dao of "either you are democratic or I'm not going to have diplomatic relations but I will declare war with you instead and steal all your things"(a little exaggerated but the core is that) is kinda too tyrannical for me.
It's so like what the Catholic religion has done, really, killing those who do not think like you, isn't that a little too..inhuman?

 

I get that Zhang Ye is extremely biased in his speech but alot of the things he says actually make sense regarding China's anger towards Japan.
Although Zhang Ye goes too far by ruining a political agreement alot of the reasons are really understandable.
Plus the people who experienced these atrocities of Japan during war are still alive today, so to discuss better relations with Japan when the govt. hasn't apologized for anything is really......

Just try imagining it you suffered many atrocities (which I am not going to mention - it's pretty bad) but instead of trying to demand compensation for your suffering your own government decides to fawn over the very country that caused your suffering. You can imagine the reaction.
How can you even face the people who died before you? Your friends, family, and loved ones. It's really mortifying.

Spoiler

On the anniversary of the massacre that has just passed, did any high-ranking official of Japan express an apology for China?

...the last of the Chinese comfort women are still seeking justice from the Japanese government. They have yet to receive a cent, an apology, or even a trace of remorse from them!

Spoiler

...the last Chinese laborers are still seeking for compensation from the Japanese government and enterprises. But they are being mocked by their government, enterprises, and law!

How about those Japanese enterprises that have disgraced their government? They are currently earning truckloads of money in China!”

...our homes in the northeast are still polluted with millions of Japanese bio-warfare and viral warfare weapons, none of which they have taken responsibility for!

...the past few Japanese Prime Ministers have freely gone around and publicly urged the European Union to not lift the arms embargo against China. Yet they continue forging closer military ties with the United States to deter China!

While we keep emphasizing the fact that our lands are only separated by a strip of water, Japan explicitly and implicitly supports or encourages the incitement of opposition to our Cross-Straits relations!

When we reach agreements with our neighboring countries on the borders, Japan continually uses tricks on its occupied islands to extend its territory to the East China Sea, attempting to seize our resources and seal us off!

When we were willing to forget the past to focus on friendly relations with Japan, their authoritative agency released a survey stating that 60% of Japanese people patronize us, hate us, distrust us, and have deep contempt for us!

In the postwar decades, we’d continued the pursual of the absconded Nazi war criminals. Then, in order to be recognized as the sole government of China, we even gave up war reparations. We did not even intend to go after those Japanese war criminals who had their hands stained with the blood of our citizens!

Back then, Japan’s China Expeditionary Army totaled 1 million soldiers. But the ones who did the dirty work for them, the Collaborationist Chinese Army, numbered more than 2 million soldiers!
Back then, Japan’s China Expeditionary Army killed 30 million of our comrades in the 14 years of war! Yet 1.8 million traitors served them loyally by continuing the invasion and abetting the enemy!

Back then, the countries and citizens who had been harmed by the German occupation received considerable reparations from them. The Germans also sincerely expressed their apologies and their will to reflect upon themselves. But for us, we signed away Japan’s responsibility for their war crimes even though Japan had never sincerely expressed any regrets nor apologized to us.

Back then, the German Chancellor genuflected in front of the memorial, expressing deep remorse and the resolve to never go to war again! We did not get anything out of it, yet we initiated closer ties! We did exactly what we called a ‘new perspective’ here today, to improve our ‘friendship’!”

 

I'm amazed how many take this novel seriously.

 

Is the RAW near the end? or will the novel reach the fabled 2000+?
Does ZY stay loyal to WZQ till the end? or something happens? (BTW, i really like landlady)
Is there other country slapping arc? or is this the last?