LCD Kuro no Maou

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  1. Kuro no Maou

    Kuro no Maou BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY

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    Y'all don't fucking understand shit. Mao is already plenty fucked up and doesn't give half a shit about killing someone who he deems "evil". And why do you call him a pussy? Because he didn't turn psycho and started butchering everyone who looked at him funny? His enemies are the Crusaders, so he has no reason to go around making enemies in the Pandora Continent (read: his allies). Also, read the fucking spoilers if you are bothered by the slow romance development.

    tl;dr go read some kiddy xianxia like tdg or arifureta if you like shitty wish-fulfillment novels
     
  2. Kuro no Maou

    Kuro no Maou BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY

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    hope i won't get kicked for this shit lmao
     
  3. thaddpole

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    TLDR: people dont come out of torture, brainwashing, experimentation, and being forced to kill people without having a personality shift.

    To give you some context on how rare it is to not get a psychological disorder in that situation here is a few examples.

    1Bullying fairly applicable but not to a great degree. 60% applicable
    You know bullying alone can cause people to go through depression, have anxiety attacks, and can lead to suicide. That is just bullying you know child hood crap like calling people names maybe some physical abuse and that usually happens only when you're at school.

    2 Rape more applicable then bullying since a persons whole body is violated but maybe only 80%
    So getting is probably one of the most fucked up crimes in the world idc where you live idc who you are it should be punishable by at least life in prison without parol maybe even death sentence. Cause when men or women get raped the lasting emotional trauma is beyond anything you can imagine. They have everything from guilt, to fear and anxiety, depression, and you guessed it suicide. The effects can cause damage to everyone around them not just the person themselves it can hurt the children that they have. It can cause them to never feel safe around whatever sex raped them (women and men can rape either women or men there are strap ons, viagra, and phentolamine all of which can force a unwilling partner)

    3 ptsd/ shell shock/ and torture probably most applicable to our situation I would say around 95% applicable

    can lead to depression, guilt, suicide, complete change in character, and a whole shit ton more.

    Now then we have shell shock, battle fatigue, combat neurosis, which all go under the name PTSD. If you don't know a vet you might not understand, but after going through combat people are drastically changed beyond anything you could probably understand .

    My cousin who served in desert storm and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan couldn't be in a room with more then 3 people at a time. I have spoken to him at length about ptsd, and how it effects some of the other guys and its really really really bad. Some of the vets if they hear loud noises like a balloon popping they will flip shit and can do anything from balling up on the floor crying to flipping tables and using them as barricades while grabbing whatever they have nearby as a weapon. These vets are given medication to help with the issue and just about all of them never fully recover. Yeah they might get close, but even then they still are usually on edge. These guys are probably some of the hardest well trained men on the planet and are prepared for what is to come in ever possible way that the modern mind can think of and they dont walk away even close to unscathed.

    To give you an idea about what ptsd does to people untreated. after world war 1&2 many men had shell shock which was later renamed to ptsd, but no one really knew what shell shock was, or really how to identify it let alone treat it. If a man had shell shock it was considered a sign of weakness and could be put on trial for cowardice or desertion they could be executed or court martial. In world war 1 there was 240,000 Courts Martial and 3080 death sentences handed down, however, only 346 executions where carried out though. The term shell shock was eventually banned by the british army and it was censored out of medical journals because so many of the soliders ended up having it during world war 1. After world war 1 the soldiers who had shell shock would return to there homelands and would end up doing horrible things not cause they wanted to, but cause their minds where so screwed up. Men who used to be gentle and kind would end up becoming wife beaters, Men who used to refuse to drink ended up as hard core alcholics trying to drink away the memories. Their dreams where haunted by both the faces of allies and the faces of the enemies that they had killed.

    one war correspondent wrote the following

    "Something was wrong. They put on civilian clothes again and looked to their mothers and wives very much like the young men who had gone to business in the peaceful days before August 1914. But they had not come back the same men. Something had altered in them. They were subject to sudden moods, and queer tempers, fits of profound depression alternating with a restless desire for pleasure. Many were easily moved to passion where they lost control of themselves, many were bitter in their speech, violent in opinion, frightening."

    another writer between the two wars said this.

    "There should be no excuse given for the establishment of a belief that a functional nervous disability constitutes a right to compensation. This is hard saying. It may seem cruel that those whose sufferings are real, whose illness has been brought on by enemy action and very likely in the course of patriotic service, should be treated with such apparent callousness. But there can be no doubt that in an overwhelming proportion of cases, these patients succumb to ‘shock’ because they get something out of it. To give them this reward is not ultimately a benefit to them because it encourages the weaker tendencies in their character. The nation cannot call on its citizens for courage and sacrifice and, at the same time, state by implication that an unconscious cowardice or an unconscious dishonesty will be rewarded."

    Your claims of how he is effected by his trauma

    You claim that mao is already effected that he has lost his sense of life values he views those that are evil and doesn't feel/care about killing them. your exact words "Mao is already plenty fucked up and doesn't give half a shit about killing someone who he deems "evil"."


    my rebuttal

    killing people whom you deem evil and not caring is something that people have been doing for tens of thousands of years. The Islamic faith proclaimed all lands not under them where evil and rapidly expanded and started conquering they began first by conquering all of Saudi Arabi under the prophet mohammad, and then 2 years after his death proceeded to try and conquer the rest of the world. They ended up with about 60% of the Mediterranean area including all of spain and portugal and where known according to legend for the bright red hats they had from using the blood of Christians as a dye. The Islamic empire then proceeded to continuously try to invade Europe for the next 1200 years first through spain and then through the middle east. During that time Christendom responded with the crusades and declared the Muslims to be evil and tried to conquer them which lead to more blood shed and neither side cared about the other.

    As far as I can tell you're a moron. you seem to think that a 17 year old could stand up to what millions have gone through amplified by the fact that hes tortured, forced to fight, and experimented on. Do you know how bad people have it with only being tortured or having to fight separately combining them most people go either insane or have so much medication to help with the lasting physical, emotional, and mental trauma that they can barely feel at all afterwords. They are haunted by both the ghosts of those they have killed and by those that have tortured and abused them.

    you somehow think that a 17 year old with no training to resist torture, no training to prepare him for combat, no medical treatment to help him with the resulting mental strain. That he somehow comes out from that situation without any sort of backlash at all to his character is idiotic and whimsical thinking.

    JP and chinease writers write with rose colored glasses they assume that the mc they have is unkillable and unchangeable and can only get stronger. That he cant have any character flaws and everything must be dropped in his lap.

    if you want to learn about ptsd and shell shock google them.
     
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  4. Reugros14

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    Hello, mister forums wikipedia, let me get this shit into your brain that: "Mao had a damn ring which stopped 90% or more emotions!!" DUh fuck you! You think a person who is tortured like hell but has his emotions about escaping or doing anything restrained would go psychotic after all this shit. Okay I can understand that he hated fighting and stuff, but later he was slowly losing his emotions, before he went 100% non-emotional damned fuck he was saved, however, by that time only the hatred and escaping emotions were left, all other emotions he felt while the time he had a ring in his head were "POOFED", get it POOOOOOFFFFFFFEEEEEDDDD!!!!!!
    So why do you think he would go crazy.

    Getting ahead, the sacrifice or whatsoever given to summon Mao in this world was something rare and great, which meant he had "Abnormally" strengthened heart and mind, along with other future potential OP'ness.

    Getting more ahead, with his previous emotions poofed, like {going psycho}, he found someone he could call a friend. Then he found the enemies which ignited his not poofed emotion "HATRED". Now, he get's another friend, but finds all Side chars are dead, but know what he had "Abnormal" heart and mind along with "Live" friends "AT THAT TIME". Unlike those damned soldiers in WW 1 or 2 who didn't had best friends and family with them at that same moment.

    NOW ALL THIS STUFF I SAID WILL BECOME IRRELEVANT IN FUTURE, why? READ BELOW

    Lastly, okay this is somewhat farther than the TL's. But, I'm won't spoil you, still,

    DOES ANYONE EVEN KNOW THE PERSONALITY MAO HAD BEFORE HE WAS TELEPORTED!!?? maybe he was a wimp who would do nothing even after getting near-killed. Maybe he was a asshole who would kill anyone if they even stood in front of them.. NOw let me spoil you:

    Later it is revealed that his personality is a fake, it's not his real one cuz that suffered the consequences of Torture done to him over time till Chapter 10, which means yeah his true personality went psycho. Happy now :)

    Even more lastly, to all those fucking people saying he is a pussy MC who won't know any romance shit or all. Or saying that his previous world was just shit and shouldn't be shown.
    Again a spoiler.

    Around Chapter 400+ he raped Sariel, why? well read the story or you will think it is a plot armor. Then he returns to his party and Lily knew that he had done stuff to him after reading his heart. What's left, she declared she loves him, Fiona stood besides her and kept silent. Lily hears Kurono's apology, and runs out of the inn. next before Mao ran after her, Fiona says she loves him too.......

    HIs world.. do you remember that girl in that clubroom in the prologue, if yes.... then don't forget her....just cuz....she is...........(read the damn novels fucks)
    I won't spoil anymore, but in this novel he actually ain't someone with no love stuff.
     
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    Surprised by the 2nd spoiler but not by the 1st one. I've seen similar stuff in some of the mangas and novels that I've read.
     
  6. Odyssey

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    Lily is becoming even more scary
     
  7. Mr_Magika

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    MFW people are looking for realism in a fantasy novel.
    Just read Arifureta if you want dark brooding personality after horrific experiences.
     
  8. Odyssey

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    Forsaken Hero is worse
     
  9. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    well some people like that kind of story~
    ty for spoiler so this story truly became interesting
     
  10. Odyssey

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    oh I liked Forsaken Hero up to til Volume 4 [I think that's the one] but author fucked it up so badly that he went "volume 4 will be re-written".
     
  11. Asf

    Asf 《《The aria of souls》》

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    ........ This thread has long gone of its function in discussing latest chapter discussion. Too many hijackers.
     
  12. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    don't worry someone will make it back to track after new chapter come
     
  13. Odyssey

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    so I missed names but what is the relationship between Wil, Nell, Charlotte, and Nero. I know Wil and Charlotte was siblings and Nero-Nell are siblings. but are all four siblings or cousins?
     
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    Wil and Charlotte are from Spada, Nero and Nell are from Avalon, so they don't really have any relation aside from Chartlotte being in the same party as Nero and Nell, and all of them as a fellow elite cadet in the Academy.
     
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    I bet shit hits the fan, Nell gets captured, before she's raped Kurono swoops in and saves her smooth delicate behind before proceeding to officially inaugurate her into the harem, and probably turning her yandere somewhere along the way. Nero either is cool with him because he realizes Kurono is a swell guy, or somehow finds a reason to hate him even more.
     
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    Oh finally do I see someone actually trying to make this thread alive...YAY!
    imo, this novel is seriously underrated because most just stop it after the slice of life parts in the start and different POV's which obviously aren't useless
     
  17. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    I can't blame them, that people used to read fast paced xianxia or just wanted more action less talking~
    Nero party battle ability is okay since they manage to got 4 rank but IMO their head a bit little off
     
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    "No, I’m not saying dat, if you exclude the scariness of his face, it is quite handsome."

    Nero flag, get!
     
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    This place is always so silent...Damn people, at least do the Latest Chapter discussions or don't make stuff like this at all!!!
     
  20. Mr_Magika

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    Damn, Lily, you're terrifying. Now I'm not sure whether Fiona is really nursing those girls or not, but she doesn't seem to be as cruel as Lily so maybe it's fine.