Should Qidian International releases be displayed on NU?

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I aways thought that NU was created to easy my life in managing the hundreds of novels that I read.

True, its a good way to the unknown translator get some suporte, but it helps the reader to be aware of amazing works too.
if qidian works are not released here anymore, most of the new users will not know about their novel, and it will get harder for some of us to track it too.
When the others publishes starts going international, then NU will end up dead if we do as you say.
I'd rather just keep "F5ing" NU.

 

They do daily posts all at midnight EST though right? So wouldn't it only drown out releases right around then?

 

A lot of the names , in game content and lore is directly ripped from WoW. Malfurion Stormrage for example.( i should mention that it is time reset/ vrmmo novel)

 

i think if the chapters are easily accessible, it's fine. once/if things go beyond "prove you're not a bot" or "enable java/cookies" and turn "private" there's not much reason to keep showing them. 'course, this is something of a repository, so perhaps just add a function to ignore/show paywalls?

 

I was also thinking more around this idea, it may come in handy in the future to be able to remove certain releases from the front page or a more drastic option would be to make a section with just qidian translations and the fan based translations on another section

 

It is too early to call. They had a mass release for one of their series just now so that's why they had lots of releases at the main page. If this always happens there are other ways to make it so QI does not occupy the main page even if they have lots of updates i.e. one entry for a series vs per chapter.

 

You do realize that qidian is basically paid fanfiction right? They even have fanfiction (or parodies) of some of their own original stuff.

 

You can always filter their series one by one or does series filtering do the opposite?

 

it can't really be considered fan fiction as it is not based in the same universe as the blizzard games. It is its own world, therefore should be considered a novel in its own right and if people are paying for it then that is even more reason to worry.

 

I had the same thought as you when anime went from fansubs to stolen fansubs. Also had the same thought when manga went from full fan translation into aggregation. Both went to hell and translators received no respect or thanks while enriching aggregators. By the time we realized what happened, it was already too late. This is going to happen again, with novels this time. Because I am both a translator and an author, I wouldn't want this fate even for my worst rival author.

The Berne Convention, which China is a signatory of forbid the violation of copyrighted materials. It doesn't matter if they're paid or not. If the fanfiction does not receive written permission from the original copyright owner, it's against the law, even in China. However, China doesn't respect copyright, even their own, so that's why they've been able to do what they do for so long.

 

No. NU has already stated itself to be neutral on the matter, so it shouldn't specifically weed out certain groups, no matter how large they are or how they do the translations.

@Tony Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I don't think NU, as a directory site, has anything to worry about on the copyright front as long as material isn't posted on here directly.

Personally, I would prefer NU continue hosting Qidian novels as this is still the most convenient site to find updates, and there will still be many novels not on Qidian (especially, as mentioned, non-CN novels). I don't particularly care whether translators are doing it for-profit or not (everyone's gotta pay the bills somehow), but NU has been fairly neutral in that regards anyhow.

 

I can feel your anger man.

Calm down, and have a coffee or something.

 

Did you, uh, have that coffee I suggested you have?

 

nyahahahaha~

 

I don't know about others but I have a separate reading list for novels I've dropped or novels I don't want to see in the front page and use the "Hide from Main Release Page" option in the List setting. That aside, your idea pretty much shits on what NU is about.

 

I use the 'Favorites' feature on the front page to keep a track of new chapters.
Now there is a new chapter released for a novel that I follow, but this release streak by Qidian sent that particular chapter to page 2 of the main page before I saw the chapter.
Now, I wake up after a long night's sleep, open novelupdates, check the favorite section on the front page for any new chapters released while I was asleep, find it empty, and miss that chapter because it was on page 2 and not on page 1.

This is how I use the front page, and this is why I would like to exclude Qidian's releases from my front page.
I am not saying that NovelUpdates should not show Qidian's releases, that would be a really bad decision.
What you could provide me instead, is a way to exclude Qidian's releases from my front page.
The 'Release Filtering' feature has could do with an option to exclude a certain Group's releases from the front page.
I'm sure this feature would satisfy the op.

 

Parody is not the same as fanfiction