Discussion Studying Html and Css- Are they worth it?

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  1. MH2

    MH2 [Former Child]

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    I just want to know if they are worth spending my time on
    I don't really like them but I heard that web development has alot of jobs
    How much time does it take for a newbie to become good at it?
    Can I even find a job online with just html and css?
    Do I need to learn another programming language to complement it?( Which will take even more time)

    I tried to start learning programming but when I read how much is needed just to get good, I become afraid of learning for months and then it turns out I am still not good enough
     
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    Archionois Well-Known Member

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    It is gradual learning, and in programming you should focus on getting good at fundamentals and specialize on one section. You should try formatting your forum posts with html if they permit to have it grow into a habit.
     
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  3. Drakaos

    Drakaos Member (Patriarch?) of the Anti-Qidian Sect

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    Programming isn't really that hard. I myself am just a beginner in it, but my brother has been programming for almost ten years now. It only takes like two or three months to really "master" the basics of a single programming language if you really work with it, as no one really remembers all the commands and stuff, just how to apply them.

    And as to if you can find a job, well, html and css are mainly used for website development, as you are probably aware of, so I guess it shouldn't be too difficult. Try out Freelancer.com, it doesn't really provide a stable source of income I guess, but you can probably find a couple of jobs that require developing a website.
     
  4. LightOrNot

    LightOrNot Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8.

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    Take a front-end developer full course at a place like freecodecamp or treehouse.

    Just studying html and css isn't gonna give you much.
     
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    aracgnidus Well-Known Member

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    html and css are nessecary for website but if you want to make more than that you have to study javascript to
     
  6. MH2

    MH2 [Former Child]

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    Php or java or javascript
    There are many languegues to choose from
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    If you are going to learn CSS and HTML, you should also learn Javascript.

    That said, there isn't much to learn per say for CSS and HTML. Mostly just understand its basic structure and limitations. Other than that, you can just look up references when you need it.

    Javascript is what you actually need to learn and is a real programming language. HTML and CSS are just a markup.
     
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  8. LysUltima

    LysUltima Riichi! Tsumo! Toitoi! Suuankou!?

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    If you're just going to learn CSS and HTML, it's probably not going to do much for you since there's programs like Dreamweaver for that...

    Learn PHP and JavaScript because they're languages that do more than just decoration.
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    In modern day you don't even need PHP. With Node now existing you can even write backend with javascript.

    PHP is pretty weak as a backend anyways. It was mostly meant for beginners, but since you have to learn JS anyways, Node is a better option.
     
  10. EienMugetsuTensho

    EienMugetsuTensho [Avid Reader] [C#, C++, Python Programmer]

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    If you want a job in software/web Full stack developer is the way to go. Almost every job I see wants a full stack developer.
     
  11. MH2

    MH2 [Former Child]

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    Whats a full stack developer?
     
  12. MH2

    MH2 [Former Child]

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    Which is better?
     
  13. LysUltima

    LysUltima Riichi! Tsumo! Toitoi! Suuankou!?

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    see above
     
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    MH2 [Former Child]

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    How hard is javascript?
     
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    Html and css isn't that good if that's all you're learning. You should throw in java script because all html and css really does is design web pages without much actual substance.The thing about programming languages is that you don't have to remeber everything, just how to write it so that it makes sense when you compile it.
     
  16. EienMugetsuTensho

    EienMugetsuTensho [Avid Reader] [C#, C++, Python Programmer]

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    Depends on how much you want to learn desu ne~
    With a programming language, you just need to know how it works, and you can just Google everything else.
    Of course, experience is very important.

    Some people get it more than others; google a tutorial that at least explains functions, variables, if else, and loops, and if you can't understand it within a week, don't bother.

    Most modern "real" (ie not drag n drop) programming languages have around the same difficulty.
     
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    Underload <I need someone to scratch my back!>

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    Add c++ to the mix and you can call yourself a progrrammer, right?
     
  19. Senros

    Senros Well-Known Member

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    HTML and CSS are fairly simple (well, in my newbies eyes) and they sort of give you an idea about what programming is like. Start with them and then go to javascript. Unless you only want to make basic static sites, you need javascript to implement functionality in your website. As to how difficut javascript is, no idea, haven't even looked at it yet.
     
  20. ohko

    ohko 【LGBTQ+ association】 【ohko is ohko!】

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    Before worrying about that, I recommend going step by step.

    Learn one thing at a time, otherwise you will quickly find yourself overwhelmed with how much you could learn. This is a field where there's a new microframework every year, and you have to keep up learning things if you want to stay relevant with the most modern trends. However, when you are just starting out learning things, don't worry about all the bells and whistles. Start from the basics.

    I think most people are right that you can't really get a job with just HTML/CSS (and if you did, it'd be more along the lines of graphic design, which is more about artistic sensibilities than programming). However, it isn't a bad starting place if web-related things are your interest.

    Just take it step by step and learn one thing at a time.
     
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