Discussion what makes an MC evil?

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  1. Asf

    Asf Astrograph magician

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    So... does killing an evil-doer is considered justice or evil?
     
  2. Guradu Gilgida

    Guradu Gilgida 【Gentleman】【Tembikar Demon】

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    That's why some people (quite a lot) dropped those three novels.
    It's evil.
    Justice is in making those evil-doers repent and turning them into another heroes to make more evil-doers repent. We must convert them! All hail Lord Third!
     
  3. Asf

    Asf Astrograph magician

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    Howbout the cases like the joker and batman.
    Where the batman keeps saving the joker and throwing him to prison, but everytime the joker escapes, he kept doing more masacres... we know that guy wont repent tho..
     
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    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    Evil is subjective. Good is subjective.

    I think the following creature who is pure neutral yet easily viewed as evil is an example of that distinction:

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    I always wondered about that. Even if he is against killing, why not just break his arms and legs to the point he becomes a cripple?
     
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    akki [Ani's C☕ffee-mate #3] [Hogging Rika] [Dead]

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    Decide what you think is good and the opposite of that is evil~
     
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    To me Evil is what others or moral conscious beings don't understand, can't comprehend, or know is extremely selfish of a person to do that may lead to the harm of something of value in one or more person.

    If the MC harms someone or something of value to the other relevant characters of the book that has a general virtuous or moral grey area character and the MC know he or she cause harms, but does not feel guilty about it for what ever reason.

    Then that is your Evil MC.
     
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  7. Guradu Gilgida

    Guradu Gilgida 【Gentleman】【Tembikar Demon】

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    Batman is a typo. It should be Badman.
     
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    mir 『FA Sect Librarian』 『Mirror』

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    Treating other characters in the story like objects and not beings, (/not respecting the fact that they are beings), probably.

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    ... This person said it better. I agree with Alm.

    Isn't that where the term "a necessary evil" would come in?
     
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    Nimroth TKA Fanboy

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    The way I personally see it there are no people/characters that are evil by nature but rather I tend to see evil simply as any "act" that is harmful and any "intention" that causes those acts to be evil by extension, no matter if it is directly or indirectly.
    And of course something will only be evil in the eyes of those that consider it harmful, which will differ between different people.
     
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    Stupidity makes them evil. If they are a waste of human resources, unable to comprehend the meaning of their own actions, they are the most evil.
     
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    ludagad Addicted to escapist novels

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    Gosh, when it comes to morality, philosophers may argue for ages. Like you can have those two scenarios:

    MC1: I'm gonna kill that guy because he didn't do what I wanted.
    MC2: I'm gonna kill that guy because he killed someone I loved.

    Both have a murderous intention, which is 'wrong'. Both are for revenge. First one is fueled by selfishness, second one by pain. I'd consider the first one evil, the second one misguided but understandable.
     
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    That's because at the end of the day Batman still believes in Society and the Law, so if the criminal system does not murder psychopath it's on the people to change that Law ....
     
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    So if your only desire is to rape as many women as possible and you stay true to your desire and rape as many woman as possible then there is no way you are evil?
    This link goes to the definite definition of evil. I can't say it any better :(
     
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    Evil tends to stem from selfishness - if the character does not care about other people, and has no problem causing others problems (because why should he care) I would call them evil. Breaking laws is debatable- basically is Robin Hood evil or good (or lawful / chaotic)? He breaks laws and steals from the rich to help those they are taking advantage of (not interested in starting a debate on it, you just think about it).
    I generally avoid stories with evil MCs (I just find them boring to read), so when characters seem relatively neutral, then do something I'd consider evil (example: sacrificing children's souls to summon demons, or letting a child commit suicide), I lose interest fast.
     
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    Remaining a virgin for hundreds of years.
    Can you imagine the pent up aggression and hate
     
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    Evil is relative to some level, what would make an mc truly evil would probably be killing indiscriminately for no reason, besides that... as I said it is relative... for example nidome no yuusha, would you call him evil for going for revenge after knowing everything that was done to him and knowing his targets true personalities? I wouldn't, but if you don't know it... yea he's a tad brutal...

    Oh an evil mc would be like the one from circus of oubaniel, or something, a real nice guy who performs human experiments and brainwashes people while seeking immortality

    A strategist might see soldiers as resources... objects... to be used in order to protect other humans and be seen as a good guy by the ones he tries to protect and even be seen as a good guy by the soldiers cause he tries not to lose many of them, I would have a hard time saying if he is good or evil
     
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    Good or evil is subjective .

    What you find evil I may call good and what you find good I may call evil ..

    For me an evil mc is a mc that kills the ones that he loves or loves him just because he wants so without a proper reason.
     
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    Recommending Invisible Dragon to anyone asking for novel recommendations.
     
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    Asf Astrograph magician

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    What if the mc have a proper reasons to do so?
     
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    when me da reader call MC Evil for what ever reason I want~
    most so called Evil and Good debate just go round and round like circle~
    meh~