Discussion What makes someone them?

Your dream is too small a lot of people here have already destroyed many worlds
like @Satan @The Destroyer of Worlds etc

 

Heredity+environment+knowledge. Changing one you change the result.

 

you is you at that moment why break your brain about sombody else who at best is leser version

 

just something that i had read today: there isn't something leser because there isn't a unit of measure.

 

it will be leser becouse it will be mising that moment so it will be difrent so becouse i make the best choices i`m best ...

unit of measure can always be defind or made up for the situation need to deide what mesuremnt means good and bad then you get leser bad or lesser good

 

if you talk about different things, diffrent humans, what do you take in consideration? If you admit the existence of 'leser beings' you admit the diffrence in treatment that it follows. You can discuss about 'leser' or 'higher' notions but you can't impose or make them the rule, you use those concepts so that you can understand what the world is, but, in the end.. On what basis do you built the notions? Philosophy.... On an another plane, that's the same aspect with clones: the basis is the same, but something changed. Up to some point you can say that there are things in common but, from that point on there's, at least, a difference. So, if the both clones have individuality then both must be protected. ..
Sorry, i'm tired of discussions where i have to try to explain myself - i don't own an answer, nor a way to discover it.

 

i`m saying he is less me then me doesn`t mean i`m more him than he ... he just will never be better me then me
i addmit difrence in treatmet but not as whole but defined by at thet certain job or task why should the person who makes swords at higher grade treated the sam as one who makes at worst grade ... but worst grade maker just be better at making childern so in thet respect he is treated better by female while other treated better by warriors

 

i think that you make a mistake. Clones aren't quantificable 'things'. The boss decides the criterias. If you are paid by the number of swords of medium quality, you just have to do them. If you have a contest and only the best sword is paid, then, the problem is resolved: do your best.

 

what if one works faster then the other or criteria acn be their reaction to situation to obey or to rebel who wants clones who want to kill you

 

well, the diffrence of results needs a diffrence in salary, no? But, you, as the boss, decide the criterias so, anyone who fits the criterias must receive the same salary. But, if you give a better salary to someone who does the same thing, then it means that you must have a different motive (maybe she's your mistress?). The diffrence of treatment borns dissesions only when there are the same criterias and only if the workers do the same thing with the same results. If two workers meet the requirements, but only one is better paied, than there is a problem.
Those areyour clones, no? Why would they want to kill you?

 

communism?

 

they are my clones so ofcourse they want to kill me ....
never said there can`t be same treatment but there can be hidden criteria

 

i`m boss my rules don`t like go sit basment or prove me you deserve better

 

you are your own boss?

 

Hey, @ potato what don't you understand? I'm talking about differences in treatment..

 

ni i`m the one who sits in basement

 

but it is in direction of comunism idology as far my brain works and it is not the worst idea just not that easy to implement

 

For me it looks like capitalism. You are payed for what you do, for the results of your work. There were the same criterias that were meet, no? ...

 

isn`t the same in comunism just that your boss isn`t asshole who lives nice life on your hard work but the govement who selflelie work for poepel benifite