Discussion What makes someone them?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Potato, Nov 24, 2015.

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  1. CDLevit

    CDLevit Aspiring water; spark of cynicism; Em&es explorer.

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    From what i know, in communism you are paid for your work, witouth taking into consideration intelectual work, callifications doesn't matter.
     
  2. spoks

    spoks Well-Known Member

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    i guess what i know is littel difrent ... who knows
     
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    Amss Well-Known Member

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    1. It would be you but in a different body.
    2.thats basically cloning lol, bodywise anyway. I think u would be at point B cause the teleporter only failed to destroy ur body not the teleportation
    3.you would still be alive and u just need to find a new body Mouhuhahaha
     
  4. Potato

    Potato its doomed

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    2. but your consciousness is still in body A and a separate one has appeared in Point B
     
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    tocos10 Even more then the greatest Poster

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    Nothing there is no such thing as someone
     
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  7. Ldyrdy

    Ldyrdy Snowfallsdown

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    You know what defines and makes you 'you' is the thing that you do..

    For ex: A liked to drink milk
    B don't like it..
    A transported to B body and drink milk..
    I can still see A even though it's B body..
     
  8. Potato

    Potato its doomed

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    im necro-ing (is that the term?)
    meh.
    heres the actual article
    here
     
  9. Shio

    Shio Moderator Staff Member

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    In Buddhism, they compare human with a cart. A cart could only be called as a cart when the wheel, main body, and all other parts are completely assembled. But when we only have the wheel, we can't called it as cart.
    So, the combination of body, soul, and the mind is what made individual. But in Xianxia identity is pretty much tied to the soul/memory, so...
     
  10. TUSF

    TUSF Well-Known Member

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    Here's something to consider:

    Consciousness as we know it, is effectively an illusion, created by various interacting electro-chemical reactions in our brains, along with the help of various other organs that pump hormones into our systems and stimulate certain parts of the brain. We are complicated machines.
    If we took out your brain, fed it oxygen and nutrients, and just connected it to a computer, what do you think that would feel like?

    Well for one, your personality would change. You'd no longer have a sex-drive, and it's possible a ton of your emotions would simply vanish, or just act differently. After all, you were just separated from the hormones that lets you emotions work in the first place.
    Now, is this computer with a brain-in-a-jar, you?
    The brain would certainly say "yes".

    But if you hypothetically split the timeline, so that there's a timeline where you had your brain removed and put in a jar, and one where you didn't, and then you put the two of these "yous" in the same room, what would happen? The two of these "people" would both believe they are the same person, but when they spoke to each other, they would have drastically different views, and their memories of things would "feel" different. They would think differently, and they would make drastically different assumptions.

    The identity you currently are, is in fact tied to both your brain (mind) and body. But at the same time, if we cloned you (giving the clone all your memories) and then killed the original you, the world just sees it as "you moved from one place to another". A clone of you with no distinguishable differences, may as well be you. At least for the moment; if you clone a person without killing the original, and let the two of them live as they wish, the end result is two very distinct people.
    Similarly, "you" are completely swapped out for a different "you", ever 6-7 years, as cells are replaced in your body. And through a culmination of experiences, your mind also is twisted around and changed.


    So, if we pulled a you from 10 years ago, and a you from 10 years from now, the question is, which is "you"?
     
  11. ghostcat

    ghostcat Member of the Royal Society of Napping

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    well it doesn't mater de situation if you can perceive your existence then you are you, everything else is just other people trouble.....
     
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