GT, 17k, and Zongheng megamerge thread

I never said yes or no. As a formal company, not me or either a single person could decide. If you are willing to waive the NDA, come on man, send it over to our legal unit first.

 

WW opened all their books to you, and their contract form is publicly hosted on their website.

Additionally, disputing part of a contract does not void the entire thing. WW is fully in their right to carry on with their interpretation of the contract until enjoined to stop by a court.

You on the other hand are not free to continue to utilize translations that it's been made clear are not licensed to you by the translators, whom are the rights holders to said work.

Unlike WW whom can argue in good faith that their contract allows them to host those 11 novels as their contract is with the actual rightsholder whom can actually grant said right.

 

The returns they got are the ad revenues and license to ebook in certain ebooks platform. Fair enough? BTW, never allow them to post contents on Patreon but they had broken the agreement for a long while

 

Mate stop saying "send it to our legal unit first." This just means you don't have the bollocks to actually confront what the contract entails, or you're unsure whether you yourself can win in this type of environment if the contract is revealed.

 

Don't say my edit didn't warn you.

Let's twist the car thing since you want to be a prick:

Let's say the 'brand' of the car is a Toyota. (AKA a Qidian brand novel). This person (and friends) has built a car for personal use, with the Toyota's design ethics, but not an actual toyota car. Let's call it the Toyota Lernlaw.

This user lends this car to a single friend (Ren), he is not paying anything, he is not even gaining money off his friend using the Lernlaw. This friend is going to just put it in his yard so people can see it, and since the owner wants to make it a showcar, the friend will speak to Toyota for them!

So he calls Toyota (you). Toyota agrees to permit this case to be used for official lending purposes. The model of the Lernlaw's good, it isn't a shame to Toyota's products, so they let it go through in a deal. In this deal, they form an agreement that Toyota can make a copy of the Lernlaw and sell copies of it when the design's finished.

Toyota (you) at this point, plan to steal the Lernlaw, which while similar in built, is NOT your actual Toyota manufactured car. Toyota take it from the friend by breaking into their fenced yard, make a copy of the car part for part, then take it to their factory and claim they own it. In fact Toyota give shoddy credit to whoever made it, Toyota completely omit that the actual guy who designed the Lernlaw was involved (if you doubt me, compare https://www.webnovel.com/book/8058318405003505 - which only mentioned Yeon and Law; to http://www.wuxiaworld.com/wdqk-chapter-828/ - which clearly mentions Arron himself translated it. Or http://www.wuxiaworld.com/wdqk-chapter-819/ and Frozenfirez, or http://www.wuxiaworld.com/wdqk-chapter-122/ by Yellowlaw, I could go on for a while).

(Btw, off topic, I barfed just loading up your website, that's how much you disgust me).

Not only that, but Toyota break into this friend's yard whenever the owners of the Lernlaw upgrade their car with a new part, and copy this part, piece by piece. In addition you are claiming parts of the contract exists that never existed, that when people look in history contradicts the will of your earlier comments such as trying to favor translators and not create havoc (ohhh I could so hunt this down...).

Now you claim that you own the Lernlaw, and are attempting to shanghai it off the friend (Ren) is front yard.

THIS is the analogy we got to make to you.


NOW let's turn that in your favor: Let's say the friend DID agree to give you the Lernlaw. He has no right. He cannot give you the Lernlaw anyhow. Even if he did give it to you, you cannot use the Lernlaw legally anyhow anyhow. He does not own the lease/title to the Lernlaw, the original guy(s) who made it do. Basically: You do not own the right to the Lernlaw, the creator(s) do. You cannot just up and legally take the Lernlaw if you do not actually own the permit to the Lernlaw. While the Lernlaw can no longer be in the friend's parking lot, YOU/Toyota cannot put it in your display case either. What this means is that you got nothing, the owner has the lease. If you want the Lernlaw, speak to the owner, not Ren. You cannot make those Toyota Lernlaws until you got the right to make them from the maker, as it's his own unique model of car.

Now, if you were to build your own unique car (translation) using the same design methods (The original Webnovel), but different parts (different interpretation), then that would be fine.

But you didn't. You basically copied the Lernlaw, and denied the creators all rights to it and only encredited the editors.

You can flash any contract you want, but you got 0 right to have those translations up in ANY community, whether Chinese, International, Austrailian, American, etc. If you have any good will, you'd take every translation down. Not because "Wuxia World owes you, so you feel entitled", but because "Wuxia World couldn't have given me these, so that means that I shouldn't HAVE these".

 

@Qidian who believe what u say about contract they bound to nda that mean whatever u say all opposite of the contrac the mean all of its just big blablabla liar.
Jusr waiv tbe nda and show the contac the i will trust u if not nah i just hear blablabla

 

Sorry, I don't understand MTL. Ren, can you translate please?

 

Qidian_Int "The NDA functions in a way such that no one can disclose anything legally. Even if both sides agree to disclose."
Yeah, no one would trust your "legal unit", you will interpret it the wrong way anyways!

 

Which agrement show us engligment us and showus so call for the comunity
That qi claimed

 

There we go! According to you "They broke it first!" now we can also break it!

 

WOW...

 

Problem.

The entity you contracted with doesn't own the translation, and therefore can't transfer the rights to you.

Once informed of this by the rightsholders(which you have been), you're obligated to cease use of them.

WW on the other hand, has grounds to claim temporary authorization to host those other novel, directly from the rightsholder. While that's under current dispute, their contract at least could grant that right.

 

Epitome of irony, right.

 

Guys why are we even bothering? Our dear Qidian PR has never even seen the contract.

And if he didn't have the intelligence to undertand basic logic and legality after over 90 pages of the wuxiaworld formal response thread, he's not going to get it any time this year. It's a gone case guys.

 

I know whatever he says is BS, but it's still interesting to see how twisted he can make his claims/WW's stance.

 

Just want see how far he can go with it
Poor pr

 

The translators are not employees of WW and can not break the contract on WW's behalf.

Also, really? They paid for the rights to publish ebooks, and the ad-revenue is their own.

You're seriously trying to claim that QI's payment to WW is something that WW paid for, and their own site's revenue?

 

So the peerless PR department joined the fray

 

Come on don't say that. We all know he can spin the facts infinitely.