LCD The Desolate Era

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by JJ, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. sirin423

    sirin423 Well-Known Member

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    they have them, they have more than 30 of them, and one that is in a higher level
     
  2. Viola

    Viola Studio Ghibli Fanboy Mother of Learning Fanboy

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    It was explicitly stated that the Sithe had no Autarchs.

    All they had were their incredible Golem, Treasures and War Machines which enabled them as a species to do battle against a Realm verse with Autarchs.
     
  3. Doc Williams

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    chencking said:
    the Sithe had so many Daolords yet not one Autarch.

    There are only two Sithe now. One to embody the power and one to crave it. ;);););)
     
  4. Saitama.sensei

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    The sithe didn’t have an Autarch, I think it was just that their legacies were super strong making their hegemons even stronger then other verse lords (the three clan leaders had very poor dao insight but were on par with Ji ning and they only had the weakest silver legacy). The fact that the sithe didn’t have any Autarchs is the reason they lost the war, it was mentioned in the latest translated chapters (can’t remember witch one)
     
  5. VinnyOni1

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    Daolords are insignificant in power compared to autarchs but that does not means autarchs can casually make a daomerge treasure that guarantees them becoming eternal emperors. Just like autarchs can't casually revive daolords or those of weaker cultivation.
    All the other daos don't reach hegemon level when autarchs break through. It's just that he trained in 8 or so daos while trying to break into autarchs level in his main one. Whike training in the other ones he broke through to hegemon level in them.
    What happens when they break through autarch level is one dao births all other daos, creating another realm. It doesn't mean he has the enlightenment of all daos at hegemon level, otherwise when Ning was studying the autarchs daos there would have been more than 8. Just like how nings sword dao can be used to affect spacetime and move at the speed of light, doesn't mean he has high insight into the wind or light dao.
     
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    It's weird, though. The Sithe's low-level "common foot-soldiers" are as strong as second-tier Emperors, city lords in Ji Ning's universe. The cultivators only have one or two levels above that, for Emperors: Hegemons, and perhaps elite Hegemons. Meanwhile, ordinary Emperors and Elite Emperors are weaker than even the Sithe Daolords.

    Since the Sithe didn't have Autarchs, then everyone in their race was at the Eternal Emperor level? And they jump from common foot soldiers to Black Emperors, with the differences between second-tier Emperors and Supreme Emperors (Hegemons) represented by the tower levels?
     
  7. Mercy

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    But there is a prob here...
    The silver Daolords can never even become Emperors so the will die in 108000 chaos cycles
    And they are more like Golems(They cant get stronger,have descendents and what not)
    And like That Autach sayed the Sithe Didnt have an Autach so the could never win...

    And i guess there Hegemons are Stronger cause the Bodys are Stronger(There Bodys without Insight can fight Hegemons if im right)
     
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    Is that the case for true Sithe? Or only for cultivators of other races that underwent the ritual to become pseudo-Sithe? It seems somewhat similar to how World Gods can take those pseudo-Samsara pills and become Daolords, but only the weakest ones, and unable to progress further. Plus the whole species change..

    Even though the Sithe may not have had Autarchs, they managed to be the strongest race in the verses, to the extent that even when the cultivating Autarchs allied together, they still weren't sure if they'd survive or win the war. If anything, they didn't even think the odds were in their favor. So I wouldn't say they could never win...

    Oh, that's true. So their stronger bodies, in addition to their superior cultivation inheritances, made Sithe stronger than same-level cultivators, you think?
     
  9. Mercy

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    Well im prty sure it was mentioned that once the become a Silver Daolord they cant make any further Breakthrougs...

    And yeah im prty sure the reason why they are stronger on the same lvl is cause of the bodys lol
     
  10. ZhaWarudo

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    lol again with eternal but not really, immortal but not really, everything and everyone has just a really long lifespan and nothing so far is eternal in DE
     
  11. Mercy

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    Eternal Emperors are actualy ...Its just they cam get Killed...
    The reason the are still trying to get stronger is so that the dont get killed ...

    Edit: Dont get killed and reach the peak i guess...
     
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    ZhaWarudo TOKI WO TOMARE!!!

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    We don't know that yet... we thought celestial immortals were immortal, and above that it's just getting stronger. Daolords live 108 000 chaos cycles, perhaps eternal emperors live for 108 000 000 chaos cycles, while quite long, it's still not eternal...
     
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    Celestial Immortals can live fir 108000 Chaos cycles as well(I read that here lol)
    And its the same untill daolord...
    You are immortal after Daolord(Immortal as in you can live for a long time but can still get killed)
     
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    No, celestial immortals die with the chaos world so one chaos cycle?
     
  15. chencking

    chencking [Daolord Grammar Nazi]

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    Actually, it does. As the treasure explained to us, Bolin can, upon reaching the Daobirth realm, use his Claw Dao to immediately learn or mimic all other Daos. That is why they can create Otherverses with full sets of Prime Essences. It als explains why every Autarch is so tuned into fate. You have to admit that at first, they sounded like mystical hermits wandering around in nature. That's because every Autarch is at the Daobirth realm, and as such should easily has Hegemon-level numerancy. Waveshift can interfere with Daomerges; why shouldn't they be able to.
     
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    That's not why they die.

    Celestial immortal can live 108 000 Chaos Cycles, but they cannot live outside of a Choas Realm for any substantial amount of time. They die without the refined energy of their Solar Star. Thats why the bare minimum level required for roaming in the Primordial Chaos is Elder God / Ancestral Immortal. This is because they can absorb energy directly from the Primordial Chaos.

    Same was stated about World Gods. They can live just as long but they don't because they are all weak as he'll and die on their adventures or they succeed and are thus not World Gods any more.
     
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    chencking [Daolord Grammar Nazi]

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    108,000 chaos cycles is the lifespan for Daolords. Celestial Immortals are also long-lived, but I believe it is less.
     
  18. Viola

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    I thought that it was their inherent weaknesses that gave them a lesser lifespan, but once those weaknesses were counteracted (by someone stronger usually) they had the same lifespan.
    Sort of like being able to live well over 100 but dying early because of disease and sickness. Deal with the problem and you live until your max potential, don't and you die early.

    I could be very wrong but that what I remember from an explanation well after Ning left The 3 Realms.
     
  19. Waaazzap

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    I kind of miss the dao of primordial chaos. It was top dog out of all the daos for a while, then IET got distracted by swords and we never heard about it again.
     
  20. chencking

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    Could be. Personally, I don't remember Celestial Immortals getting an exact lifespan. Until the Daolord level, they were treated as immortal for all intents and purposes, and the focus was instead on how 1 chaos cycle with no insights means you will never have an insight again. The lifespan bit felt as if it was contrived to explain why Daolords even attempt the Daomerge.
     
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