How Not to Respond to a License Notice: Roxism HQ and Nozomanu Fushi no Boukensha

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by Sam Pinansky, Feb 28, 2018.

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  1. flowingcloud

    flowingcloud Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to argue on your point. Monopolies have that have full control over a product still have ads to improve public image. Arguably, public image is still crucial if they want to make money.
    (Example: Qi having bad public image made many people drop the novels that they read due to the fact that do not like Qi.)
     
  2. xTachibana

    xTachibana Wincest King

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    Yeah, good for making money by promoting your brand, not relevant at all to copyright, dmca or patreon TOS infringement.

    So technically, you aren't arguing against my point at all, since that was never my point.
     
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    Atamahead027 Pleasure Research Club President

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    Even if they do, is it necessary to tell it to you? It's not like telling this to us is needed to dmca roxism tho.
     
  4. voiceburner

    voiceburner Well-Known Member

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    Just re read dcma and buged my lawer and he said their a chance for this to fail at trial as long as prejury does not take place
     
  5. Ratatoskr

    Ratatoskr [Aruruu's proud dad] [The False Gentleman]

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    old people solution when things doesn't work, smack it till it does.
     
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    Of course not, but since they announce their threat to file it on this forum, i just announce my question in that same forum. Is it necessary to announce their threat? is it necessary to prove that their threat is backed legally? is it necessary for me to ask about it?

    Well, this whole mess is not necessary honestly. Some points might be worth delivering, but not the drama.
     
  7. voiceburner

    voiceburner Well-Known Member

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    prejury is a thing you know
     
  8. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Negative publicity is cheaper and personally I prefer it. Publicity is publicity.
    Humans are self serving and selfish. If people think otherwise because a good PR campaign it's their own stupidity.
    Everyone on this thread is here for their own selfish reasons even if it's just to inflate their own ego or act stuck-up
     
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  9. prongsjiisan

    prongsjiisan Apostle of Violence

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    Never pay patreon neither pay legal translation. And we don't care as long as it's free or cheap. And FYi I never read that novel either.. it's not my taste.

    And most of novel they're translate is crap. So why do you waste your time to Lisence crappy story. Why not other story that's better like Akuyaku Tensei?

    Enough with ball less Japanese MC!
     
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    TamaSaga Well-Known Member

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    Nope, not needed. But the thing is, J-Novel isn't totally writing this to garner support in case they DMCA. Nope, JNC is writing in regards to Roxism's service. And their points are as follows:

    - Laughably Overpriced to those who haven't "donated"
    - Cruddy translation quality

    If official translations can guarantee far better service over these two points, then seeing 'David' take a defiant stand just to "stick it to the man" is not something to applaud.

    Plus, who pays for fanfiction anyway? I can definitely say that I haven't seen a cent of money for my stories.
     
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  11. SenjiQ

    SenjiQ [Wise, for a Bird]

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    when you are pre-selected to be a member of a jury?
     
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    Atamahead027 Pleasure Research Club President

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    This answer your question.
    Dmca is not the point of this thread. And this not a threat thread from JNC.
     
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    TamaSaga Well-Known Member

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    Reworded it. Should express my original intent better. Although now that I reread it, your reply was a two-parter. But I still think the newer version is still better, thanks!
     
  15. dmon

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    as per my previous post:

     
  16. voiceburner

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    At the end of the day its bait and we bit
     
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    Atamahead027 Pleasure Research Club President

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    To be fair i also feel insulted that roxism give a label of fanfic for something he didnt own. Its like i google translate one piece manga and change the cover to doujinshi and sell it to you with a rip off price.
     
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  18. Dravileo

    Dravileo Imofever never end

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    Look on death march wn and ln.
    Anime is airing now. Wn and ln is different. Look on overlord wn and ln, where iz albedo
     
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    Actually, Youtube are only allowed to taken down videos that's reuploaded to Youtube. So if say, the writer is write at Syosetu and the reuploader also reupload at Syosetu then Syosetu is allowed to take them down. If it's uploaded to other website, the author himself is the only one allowed to take them down.
    So in a clean legal battle, Roxism will win, but if the author himself apply a DMCA for any translated version of his work, even the WN, then the author will (generally) win. The key is whether the author really try to take it down or not (and in case of asking the bigger company to take them down need an OFFICIAL statement from the author that he allow publisher x to take his translated free content down)
     
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    prongsjiisan Apostle of Violence

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    Bad selling Campaign. Just DMCA and done.. why should make a thread?
     
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