Discussion Is it still NTR?

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  1. Corensi

    Corensi Maiden of Purity

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    Hmm, I've been curious on the topic of NTR. But sadly, I'm not talking about the NTR in doujins or H (not that I read any, of course...what??? Don't look at me like that!!!). I'm talking about the more emotional type where the MC's love interest is stolen away with more than sex/blackmail/hypnosis, but actual feelings for the NTR-er. This type hurts more (and I don't enjoy it at all. Nope, not a masochist...what??? Doubting me again??).

    So here's the situation: MC is in the final phase of developing feelings for Love-Interest (LI in short). At this point, we can tell that it's mutual. LI likes MC, MC likes LI. We can practically see them getting together soon. But nothing is official yet.

    And then, LI confesses. But MC doesn't want to get together yet, for various reasons. MC still holds affection for LI, it's just that MC can't right now. So MC lets LI down.

    However, since MC still actually likes LI, MC does ambiguous things.

    Sadly, since LI was let down, another person--who had been pursuing LI for some time now---enters LI's vision.

    Blabla, MC finally gets rid of the reasons for not being able to be together with LI and cones back to LI. But now, LI has no more feelings for MC and is actually more in love with Rival now.

    So, is it still NTR?

    If so, then why? Nothing was official, so is it fair game for the Rival?
     
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    Ataraxic_L1FE Well-Known Member

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    They were never officially together, though?
     
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  3. Jigoku Shounen

    Jigoku Shounen An Envoy From Hell

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    Yes, it's NTR.
    Just the fact that the girl got feelings for the MC but lost it due to any reason then changed her feeling to another guy because of any reason, then it's already considered NTR, even if they didn't couple. But if the girl didn't possess any feeling for the MC, and only one-sided from the MC then it isn't NTR.
     
  4. Yunchii

    Yunchii Best Waifu - Tamamo-no-Mae

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    From LI POV, I think she might thought MC rejected her confession so if she developed feelings to other person so it not NTR. I blame MC for being indecisive and a jerk. A person rejected your confession without telling the true reason then come back to confess to you?
     
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    No, it's called a beta japanese MC who can't figure out what he wants so he spends like 90% of the story bitching and whining and being dense and UGH IM SO DONE WITH JAPANESE NOVE-----

    Sorry I lost myself there.
    No they were never together so it's not NTR, it's just her moving on.
     
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    Suijin Blood God [Medic]

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    and realistically . no. not NTR.
     
  7. Liron

    Liron Well-Known (Failed) Prophet

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    Well, if in such a short time she went from ‘in love’ to ‘meh’ about MC, it wouldn’t last anyway. Now, if the time span was bigger (months or years) then MC is stupid and the girl is right to not wait forever. Plus, the other guy really likes her. MC should know better and at least explain why he rejected her in the spot if he really liked her that much. Heck, she might have been able to help him with his troubles. But no, MC is stupid and we are supposed to feel bad for him. In those cases I say ‘you had it coming’.
     
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    Beer_Kitty Just a very very drunk kitty that likes beer

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    I think its not. In the first place, they were NEVER been in a relationshit.
    Its only mutual understanding.
    Plus, the MC declined the LI in the first place and not even explaining why or even saying wait for me.
     
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    Senros Well-Known Member

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    It feels like NTR, but it isn't. At least imo, if they were never together, it's not NTR. Though it's not the same, it's kind of like cheating. If the one you love ends up with another guy, it might hurt you a lot, but it's not cheating or NTR. Still, if you look NTR up, it says that the MC's loved one is taken away and even close friends fall into that category. So basically as long as you have feelings for someone and that persons doesn't choose you, it's "NTR."
     
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    Zones Well-Known Member

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    Nope, the MC is the one who rejected her.
     
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    Ryve16 Working Hard and Hardly Working

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    I, personally, definitely will say its not NTR. Although they love each other, they were not together. That just means MC is stupid enough to let an opportunity go.
     
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    xalienxgamerx Mmm friend...

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    It's depressing but it's not NTR.
     
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    Robbini Logical? Illogical? Random? Or Just Unique?

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    It's hard to believe that she would have zero feelings for him anywhere, as that would just be ignoring him. She could have hatred for him rejecting her or just the attitude of being friends, but the only way she would have zero feelings for him would be if the rival had been hard at work making sure that those feelings were destroyed by spending lots of time with her and 'overwriting' MC's presence within her mind.

    And if the rival goes that far, then I would call it NTR.
     
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    I won't talk to anybody that deny reading porn and hentai o-o
    HERETIC
     
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    Beer_Kitty Just a very very drunk kitty that likes beer

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    Infidelity (synonyms include: cheating, adultery (when married), netorare (NTR), being unfaithful, or having an affair) is a violation of a couple's assumed or stated contract regarding emotional and/or sexual exclusivity.

    Are they a couple? No. MC never became a couple with LI and never had any relationship with the LI. So it doesnt count as NTR
     
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    Mmm not NTR. Blame MC for being indecisive and third party for getting in the way, If u shipped them. Also MC is a guy or girl?
     
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    I think that OP meant, that she buried her feelings. It isn't healthy for a relationship, if you or your SO still carry a torch for someone else. That is just asking for trouble. I would think that she would want to go into a relationship with her full effort, and part of it is burying her feelings for the MC.

    As to OP's question, no I don't think it is NTR, simply because there was no actual romantic relationship. We like a lot of people during our highschool years, and see them all go in and out of relationships, because it is highschool, and relationships are minute wonders. Doesn't mean that we are being cucked all the time...
     
  19. Kuro_0ni

    Kuro_0ni Cocooned in a Life transition

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    No, I don't see this as NTR. Nothing was officially established. Just a person whose wishy-washy about themselves. And loses the timing to get into a relationship.

    This is pretty much like the average teen relationship though.

    Girl has hots for guy, and guy likes girl too. But guy sidelines girl cuz of reasons.
    Then all of a sudden guy, changes mind and wants something with girl, but girl moved on. Hey she fell for the jock, cuz 1st dude basically rejected her.

    Or how about this let's flip it.

    >Nice guy likes 7/10 QT 3.14 has been always been good friend
    >Nice guy confess to her and she also says "I like you to, but I can't, cuz family reasons"
    >Nice guy says "ok, I can wait so let me know"
    *Boom* Transfer student 9/10 hottie, suddenly has eyes for nice guy
    >7/10 QT, hears rumours of nice guy & Transfer biatch
    > 7/10 QT confesses to Nice guy
    > Nice guy "Sorry, I actually like Transfer Girl now"
    > 7/10 QT is now at loss, nice guy friend no longer has eyes for her
     
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  20. Narberal

    Narberal 『 Pleiades 』

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    seems like a case of japanese betaness.
    but ye, it isnt ntr its just the girl moving on after being turned down.
     
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