Discussion Let's talk about sword and sabers

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by grish99, Oct 10, 2018.

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  1. Sword

    17.9%
  2. Saber

    7.5%
  3. Dual wield

    16.4%
  4. Spear

    20.9%
  5. Mace

    4.5%
  6. Warhammer

    6.0%
  7. Halbert

    23.9%
  8. Poleaxe

    4.5%
  9. Glaive

    14.9%
  10. Rapier

    9.0%
  11. Something else (write a comment)

    10.4%
  12. Something from poll + shield (write a comment)

    4.5%
  13. Something else + shield (write a comment)

    3.0%
  14. Bare handed (write what style)

    11.9%
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  1. Har D Rai

    Har D Rai Well-Known Member

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    I would like a warhammer because I don't have any technical skill with weapons and I can go free style smashing with it.
     
  2. ryosuke08

    ryosuke08 Well-Known Member

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    Upgrade specialist in another world. Mc starts with a brick.
    And Steamed Bun in The King's avatar uses one too...
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  3. grish99

    grish99 [Pelican Hater] [Hater of Face-Slapping]

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    Its probably 5 kg or so on a long shaft so not that heavy
     
  4. prongsjiisan

    prongsjiisan Apostle of Violence

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    Polearm (spear, yari, halberd) is true battlefield weapon. Whereas sword is secondary weapon. You want to raise your survival chance? Choose spear not sword.

    Vs monster? Spear
    Vs slime? Spear
    Vs godlike entity? Spear

    SPEAR IS THE KING OF BATTLEFIELD!! ALMOST IN EVERY ERA, ALMOST EVERY CIVILIZATION, ALL THOSE GREAT HERO USE SPEAR AS MAIN BATTLEFIELD WEAPON

    HAIL SPEAR AND WOE TO SWORDSMAN!!

     
  5. grish99

    grish99 [Pelican Hater] [Hater of Face-Slapping]

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    But in late medieval and Renesas they used halbeard and poleaxes (poleaxes were even knightly weapons)
    But you're right 3.9/4
     
  6. Macrendil Ysmir

    Macrendil Ysmir Well-Known Member

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    Spear is probably the best weapon. Yes, halbert and pole-axe are close BUT they're still second. Spear can still be used with a shield while halbert and pole-axe can't be while a spear can still be used to cut. Obviously, the MC will still need a back-up weapon on the hip, so either an axe or sword will do the trick. Actually, that depends on the amount of armor and realism implemented. Hammers and maces work too, but are more cumbersome as a back-up.
     
  7. Cutter Masterson

    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    If I had a choice in weapons and the experience to use them. I would choose...
    Shield- I like the Spartan shield because of the multiple option on bashing your opponent. The next favorite would be a Roman shield.
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    Sword- Knecht kriegsmesser. A little shorter for single hand use, but you can wield this single handed. It’s just your endurance would last longer with a lighter blade.
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    Knife- The Kukri is my favorite for in close attack.
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  8. Duran

    Duran Well-Known Member

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    What about maquahuitl? It is an ancient Aztec weapon. You take a flat wood club, and turn it to a sword by embedding sharp pieces of obsidian to it's sides. The shards rip your enemies flesh like a saw, and the ones that break from the wood remain in the wound and cause more damage.
    The main character could be a poor guy, or be stuck inside an ancient ruin with only old useless weapons and armor. He could break small pieces from them. He could carry a small pouch with glue and spare shards. By the way, you can make glue by boiling animal hide or melting tree sap. The wood part is cheap and easy to shape.
    There is stories where shards of ancient powerful relics are used while making new weapons. He could do something similar. Imagine a maquahuitl made with pieces of magical pottery, enchanted potion bottle shards and monster scales :D
    Image of a maquahuitl:
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  9. prongsjiisan

    prongsjiisan Apostle of Violence

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    Poleaxes and halberd is considered spear. And don't forget this is weapon that it's design is survive for hundred thousand maybe million years. From prehistoric to dawn of modern firearm. It said that bayonet is descendants of spear type weapon.

    Cheap, Effective, almost everybody from levies to knight ccan use it, has range advantage over sword. Yes spear have all that quality. Spearmen can even block cavalry. Oh did you say shield. More often than not spear has higher chance of winning.

    The most effective way to defeat spearmen is shower them with arrow.
     
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  10. mrawesome69

    mrawesome69 I'm getting too old for this shit

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    i'd like to see something like kusarigama being used as main weapon
     
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  11. grish99

    grish99 [Pelican Hater] [Hater of Face-Slapping]

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    Or go full plate and spears can do nothing
    That why ppl were having sidearm
    Let's say halbeards were newer version of spear
    different times different weapon and different rent definition of cheap
     
  12. lnv

    lnv ✪ Well-Known Hypocrite

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    A cat girl!

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    PS Realistic sword combat was using it as a spear or as a hammer. Like so:

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  13. barashkafromro

    barashkafromro Not well-known member.

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    A weapon that matters is a gun. If a gun doesn't matter because of magical world, then any other weapon also wouldn't matter since you could even make umbrellas, lamps and bricks into weapons, no reason why not gun in that case too.
     
  14. grish99

    grish99 [Pelican Hater] [Hater of Face-Slapping]

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    (roll eyes)
    There no gunpowder in this world nor any subsidiary
     
  15. grish99

    grish99 [Pelican Hater] [Hater of Face-Slapping]

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    I don't think that realistic cat girl combat used it as Spear or hammer
     
  16. drepas

    drepas New Member

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    bow are the best !
     
  17. Aravan

    Aravan Well-Known Member

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    A glaive as the main weapon, with a shield, two slightly curved swords, around a dozen throwing daggers and a god arm crossbow as sidearms. Paired with a chainmail.

    Why a Glaive? It has a long reach, is cheap and if it breaks, you can still use the tip as a shortsword or a cleaver. Can also be used in a mounted charge (Warhorse, tamed Beast Mount).
    Shield? Block arrows and bash idiots.
    Dual Wield Swords? Each sword can be used alone, or together, one can block while the other kills.
    Throwing Daggers? Can be used as a throwing weapon or as a normal dagger.
    Crossbow? Enemy shoots at you? Shoot back or use it for hunting (food and enemys).
    Chainmail? Decent protection, while being relativly light and doesnt hinder movement, can be repaired on your own, you can still swimm while wearing it.
     
  18. sweed

    sweed l.o.v.e.m.u.f.f.i.n.

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    @grish99 He can defeat you with only his pinky!
     
  19. insania

    insania Well-Known Member

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    Halberd and poleaxe for me. Honestly speaking, I am sick of seeing the protagonists of many battle series always using a sword, katana or dual wielding two swords and would rather see them use a different weapon. Worse part about this is that these protagonists also almost always use a very similar fighting style as well worsening the situation further. As such, I would pick halberd and poleaxe since these weapons are not that typically used in novels and they allow a lot of flexibility in how I want to use them. I would also pick tonfas as a side arm since it can be used both offensively as well as defensively and is an underrated weapon.
     
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  20. grish99

    grish99 [Pelican Hater] [Hater of Face-Slapping]

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    He?
    Who?