Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

They should go for one like the dungeon in Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken.
A massive un-passable layer of extremely dangerous floors, then everyone else living in some sunny and safe floor at the end.

 

Isn't that what the ghouls in vidas countries do? Or do they not have the dangerous floors?

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And a good hiding spot for the dungeon (in origin) would be, the dark side of the Moon.

 

The other way, there were no safe floors, just none that were a real danger to the ghouls.

 

I thought that the monster rank and spawn rate was so low that it was insignificant as a threat or deterrent so was mostly used to feed the ghouls?

Thus, the dungeon the ghouls live in are as safe as the devil's nest they naturally live in if not safer.

 

That was my understanding as well.

 

And a random question to which that as no definite answer (that I know), are there any monsters in space? The moon? The sun? Other planetiods?

 

My understanding about dungeons is that they suck up "miasma" (which, in this universe, is defined as the essence of contaminated mana from the DK forces) and use it to form monsters. Van's death attribute mana is considered to be "contaminated mana," so it can be used to create "miasma." However, without Van doing that, there should be no miasma on the moon.

 

The floors were weak enough to be safe for the Ghouls.
But they were not safe floors in the truest sense, where there was no risk of being attacked. For the Vida races that depend on co-existence with humans (the all female ones) a true safe floor would be needed for long term habitation.

 

Thanks for clearing this up, but in origin, don't monsters spawn naturally, but rarely and under certain conditions.

Ok, thanks for explaining it to me.

 

And everyone, before the next chapter comes out tomorrow, any crackpot theory or prediction?

 

Mostly undead, I don't think there has been any other monster (no dragons and the like that is mythological vs the undead being a bit closer to reality, idk on skeletons bit though).

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Got one small issue, oxygen, bear in mind monsters in Van's case (not just undead) are still living breathing beings and would need to terrascape the moon to be habitable to begin with.

 

I was thinking along the lines of rank 1 maybe rank 2 equivalents, like big rats, snakes and birds, and only really classified as monsters due to large amounts of mana inside their bodies.

 

Don't dungeons contain their own habitats, I don't know how it would react to a no atmosphere environment but I would imagine it would work like how you can have an ice floor next to a lava floor, every staircase has a special vacuum seal? Spacial seal? That locks the environments to the floors that their ment to be in with no deviations.

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I can imagine the entrance having a special seal as well.

 

Would be closer to biological mutation than a monster, unless they began to eat Van's origin corpse and that was burnt by Amemiya, Narumi and the bravers. Otherwise specific parts of Origin is either:

A. Toxic to humans due to high concentration of mana and that's if they're not altered at soul level or Van in his case as he's more of a sponge. (similar to Fukushima, Chernobyl and Mayak and several other nuclear reactor meltdowns)

B. Possibly unexplored regions

 

See it more at the gate as that's where the oxygen will be going out and would req quite the amount of mana to place and contain in a vacuum environment.

 

Depends on when the mutation occurs, if it was before birth then yeah sure, if it happens during life it could be considered a transformation of sorts.

But it all depends on what they (origin) use to classify monsters

 

Yeah but can't van modify the inside of the dungeon then to act like some sort of vacuum lock like in the iss.

And while van is on origin, if I remember correctly he can ask the origin gods for knowledge and use it (remember it) while he's still there, so long as some people on origin know it then van will know it.

 

Dungeons were originally designed to be a breeding facility by Guduranis, and then reset as a reward system for folks going in by Ricklent, if Van can alter it to be able to withstand space, then he should just put a dungeon in one of Lambda's moons (practically jumping off radar from both Brainless and Puny God along with the Bravers who may later become hostile to Van (if they become hostile) ).

 

Very good point, I want this to happen now, damn it!!

It reminds me of civilisation and vans gonna win by going to space. Haha

 

I should clarify, since the discussion seems to be going on based on this earlier comment by me. I said that there should be absolutely no "tainted mana" ON THE MOON. This says absolutely nothing about the surface of Origin. I really don't understand the basis behind what is and is not tainted mana, and I do not know if it is possible for the normal 7 elements to result in the creation of tainted mana. However, at the very least, as has been brought up here already, there should at least be some tainted mana due to Van's rampage before he died, as well as the expiraments with the death element that were pretty wide spread.