Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. jemini

    jemini Well-Known Member

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    New chapter.

    Turns out the time estimate for Mei's age was all wrong. She turns 3 at almost the same time as Van turns 12. So, she has her magic affinity test. The machines are not set to detect death attribute magic, so the test produces an error.

    While the doctors are in their lab doing the test, Banda appears to them and then hypnotizes them and tells them to replace Mei's test results with that of someone who was compatible with only light attribute magic because he figures he can use the DK light emitting organ to mimic light attribute magic in order to cover for Mei.

    Finally, during a celebration of Mei's 3rd birthday, which is a big event in Origin since it corresponds with the magic attribute test, Metamorph disguised as Avalon pays a visit along with someone else who is working along side Avalon and happens to have the same ability as Druid. Because this ally of Avalon has not recieved a part of Van like Druid has, he cannot see Banda. However, he can still sense Banda's presence, and he feels it is very big and very threatening. Banda then begins to disable Metamorph's transformation but this ally of Avalon's gets her out of there before she can revert.

    Avalon, who has seen this all go on, is not convinced by the test results. Apparently, he has reviewed the security cameras or something and realizes the "reminent member of the 8th guidance who rescued the kids that one time" was there. (doesn't suspect the whole story.) However, rather than planning to abduct Mei, he instead has an insane plan for a human experament he is going to perform on Metamorph where he kills her till she experiences complete brain death and then revives her, thinking it might give her death attribute magic. Apparently, he has come to the conclusion Van's death attribute magic was obtained because he experienced complete death once, and that's also why Mei gained death magic is because Pluto completely killed her but revived her while she was still a zygote.

    There is a final omission to the audience mentioning how the members of Legion did not gain full death attribute magic and therefore Avalon's theory is completely off base.
     
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    jemini Well-Known Member

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    Actually, this is a checkhov's gun following a round of foreshadowing when Van visited Earth. Zuluwarn told Van that it is possible for him to go down to Earth, but if he did he would be appearing as his materialized true soul, which is as big as a mountain and looking quite grotesque by most normal standards, meaning THAT'S the form he will be descending to the world as.

    This means that Origin is going to have quite the incident on their hands whenever this gun is fired.

    EDIT: This also makes Banda full-fledged Cuthulu, the dark priest who has the power to summon the old gods. Banda could single-handedly take on anything in Origin already, but he also has the ability to summon Van on top of all that XD
     
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    LokiTheAccursed Well-Known Member

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    Because nothing says overkill like summoning an eldritch god to kill you.
     
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    Nothing says overkill like cthulu summoning an outer god just for a prank, I can just imagine the class bully picking on mei and the next day he just doesn't come to class only to find out that he didn't make it home the day before.
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    Is it wrong for all of us to look forward to this happening? Because I know we all look forward to this happening.

    Aaaaand sigged.

    "Overkill" simply isn't a concept Van is familar with. Have you seen him fight? He is prepared to fight gods at all times, and he doesn't give a damn about the power his enemies possess. Using any less than his full power on enemies is unthinkable!
     
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    LokiTheAccursed Well-Known Member

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    Van likes to make sure that his enemy is deader than dead
     
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    Reman Scimitar Princess Zadiris Faction

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    No such thing as 'overkill', only 'not enough damage'.

    But seriously, need to get some popcorn and coke if I'm gonna enjoy me some inter-dimensional war.
     
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    A fly lands in mei's food as she's about to eat it (void cannon) it
    Someone looks at Mei funny (void cannon)
     
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    LokiTheAccursed Well-Known Member

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    Banda would more likely destroy the mind of those that looks at Mei funny
     
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    Nakakure Zadiris Empress Faction. NNN member Nr.1.

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    They already born at the same time Lambda born but they do not wake up before Bakacorte estabilishe his circle
    And either the god will fuse with Van or increase one of his skill .
     
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    Yeah, he would put them in a coma for life until Mei says that she forgave the transgressor
    Yeah, just like with the mirror in zarkkarts dungeon, except stronger.
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    Sure, unleash your inner ham on the insignificant fly.

    "Begone, minor pest! What evolution hath granted you, mine death laser taketh away!"

    The best solution for first world problems.
     
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  13. jemini

    jemini Well-Known Member

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    Remember, the god of Origin is currently giving Van their full combined divine protection. That means if an Origin version of Van gets created as part of their combined god, that would mean his fake version of himself is granting him power.

    His Origin face if he fully manifests his true soul in Origin is probably going to instantly become the lead voice of Origin's god too due to him having been the first god figure in Origin to have shown up physically from the heavens in a clearly divine manifestation like manner. In Pluto's case, she had the explanation of divine magic. In Van's case, he will have legit descended from heaven. If he reveals that he was "the undead," that would also mean he has come back from the dead twice, and this time in a very god-like form.
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    "What if Jesus was an Outer God?" :hmm:
     
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    To be more specific, he decides to do his test on Metamorph because he thinks she's beginning break down (i.e. suffering serious brain damage because of the constant brainwashing) due to this "malfunction" at the party, not realizing Banda is the one causing it. He fully intends to try abducting Mei if it fails, which as the end of the chapter indicates, it will.

    I think in many ways it's really just meant to be a reinforcement of how utterly callous Avalon is rather than this being an experiment he honestly thinks will work. Anyway, looks like Mari's probably off to go fill the mimic spot in the ever growing monster girl harem. Regardless, hope her third life is happier than her second. :blobcry:
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    Not to mention that the Bravers are set to automatically return to Rodcorte when they die, unless a soul manipulator interferes. So Avalon probably can't undead Metamorph. Van undeaded using death attribute magic, but he went straight to Rodcorte the instant that stopped working.

    However, Avalon's hypothesis is likely true, but missing a number of significant details. The basic premise seems to be correct, anyway.
     
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    jemini Well-Known Member

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    No, the omnission at the end stating how Pluto and the other 8th guidance members who became Legion in Lamba never gained full control of death attribute magic just about completely denies that any part of Avalon's hypothesis is correct. If anything, our hypothesis of it having to do with super early life or previous life exposure to death attribute magic that permeates your entire soul is more accurate. Remember, when Van was wandering around Origin in his soul form, he met Mei as a baby died completely black.

    So, apparently, having your soul so permeated with death attribute magic that your true soul becomes completely black because of it. That's how you pick up death attribute magic. Experiencing death likely has little to do with it other than the fact that death attribute magic is inherently deadly so you are indeed likely to die in the process of having this happen. In other words, Avalon's hypothesis is at the level of believing that it will rain if you convince everyone to open an umbrella. Of course, the reason he's so completely off base is because he is missing a LOT of crucial information.
     
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    That's is most probably how DA is actually acquired. After all we know that Legion was showered in the thinkg after having their original attribute 'extracted' and it actually gave results. So, yeah, itmost likely have to do with the souls being already 'turned black' by DA before it is 'contaminated' by other attributes,

    "What if Jesus was an overprotective nanny Outer God?"

    Am I the only one who thought it was funny tha Banda was about to go nom nom on "Avalon's" head before he noticed it was actually Meta? Or the fact that now he have a giant freaking eye inside his mouth? And that Van is still 'uploading' his skill into Banda?
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    So Avalon is almost correct only because of a technicality. So what?

    But this is exactly why he's going to experiment on Metamorph before going after Mei. He'll just prove himself wrong, and then he'll move on. Besides, no self-respecting supervillain would pass up the opportunity for mad science.

    Yes.

    Thanks for giving me an excuse to read the chapter again, just to see it in a more entertaining light.
     
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    jemini Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I just looked over the Cuthulu mythos again. By the definitions in the Cuthulu mythos, Jesus IS an outer god. BTW, outer gods are actually NOT the most powerful existences in the Cuthulu mythos. The most powerful enteties are the gods who are not defined by existence or logic, of which Nyalothatep is the weakest and is basically the messenger of these transcendent gods, Yogsothoth is the chief and lead god, and Asathot is the sleeping existence and everything in all existence, including Yogsothoth, all just exists in his dream and if he ever wakes up the mere act of him waking up will unmake all of existence.
     
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