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Interestingly, the need to reproduce remains. As the body has already died, there is no desire to leave offspring behind, but the deed is still physically possible. It is carried out by some to absorb spirit from the living and by those that died with a strong liking for engaging in intercourse.

 

I wonder how treasure work in Van dungeon

Adventurers had discovered that the contents of treasure chests in Dungeons change depending on the person who opened it and that person’s allies.

Of course, it isn’t as if Dungeons understand what the adventurers want and prepare it for them inside the chests. They simply change the size and specifications of the item.

For example, a party made entirely of Titans would find Titan-sized weapons and armor. Conversely, if a party was made entirely of Dwarves whose height only reaches a human’s chest, they would find Dwarf-sized equipment.

A Dwarf party wouldn’t find Titan-sized armor inside a treasure chest, or vice-versa.

There is a theory that evil gods had created the Dungeons and made it like this to tempt adventurers more easily. There is another explanation that the genie Ricklent, who created the Dungeons for people to use as places to train, made it this way to provide more motivation for those who used them.

 

Though Basdia’s appearance hadn’t changed much, red tattoo-like patterns that looked as if they might have magical properties had appeared on her body.

As tattoos, they looked cool. Though they made her look more impressive, they also seemed to highlight her abundant curves.

Zadiris looked like a young girl, but she had a charming appearance… probably. With his three-year-old eyes, Vandalieu didn’t have the confidence to say for sure.

Even so, he knew that she was lovely and pretty.

But perhaps his mind was affected by the age of his body; he thought nothing other than,「Ah, they’re naked.」His heart didn’t begin throbbing, nor did he feel any arousal.

He was still at an age where most children would be unaware of things happening around them, and even his first love was still at least two or three years away, so this was how things were for now.

Could it be that ten years from now, he would regret not taking a better look?
Van didn't regret it though.

 

No, not at all. King and emperor are only similar in that they are both rulers of countries, but there is a very hard and distinct dividing line between what makes a king and what makes an emperor. A king is a ruler of a kingdom, an emperor is a ruler of an empire, and there is a very strict requirement for what is and is not an empire. An empire is a nation that has either 1. anexed and rules other entire other countries with their whole governments in tact in a subordinate state, or 2. colonized an un-ruled land and installed a leader over that land who is subordinate to them and their rule.

Also, other countries like Japan that were ruled by an emperor were fairly fresh out of such a state. Japan and China, in fact, are two examples of countries that were formed from former empires, meaning a number of governments were conquered and anexed into one large empire, and then the individual governments of all the nations that made up the empire eventually dissolved and so they went from being an empire into being a very large nation.

Rome would be another example of such an empire. It is actually quite common for the anexed nations of an empire to eventually dissolve their governments and just become part of the larger nation.

In the case of the Vidal empire though, Vidal is a bit weird. Normally empires are formed by war and conquest, and the nations that make up the empire are conquered nations subordinate to the nation that did the conquering. However, in the case of Vidal, it's a number of nations that peacefully decided to band together and unify, and then chose a central leader to rule them. Vidal's situation is also not unusual in IRL history. However, whenever they do this, it's not called an empire. This sort of consensual fusion of separate governments is called a confederacy. Also, a confederacy does not call their central ruler an emperor. They call their central ruler some kind of bearucradic title that sounds like something you would call the overseer of a counsel meeting. Chairman, Minister, Administrator, Chancellor, Representative, and President are the most common.

Of course, the most powerful confederacy in the world, the United States, made the term "President" sound a lot more powerful than it once did before the US existed. Fun fact, before the US existed, President was actually considered a rather lowly position name among the possible names that you could call the leader of a confederacy. Since the US happened though, now we even have some countries that are not confederacies at all deciding to call their leaders by confederacy leader names.

At any rate, despite the manner in which Vidal was formed being closer in nature to a confederacy, the way in which they structure their government really is quite clearly that of an empire and not a confederacy. There is a very clear degree of subordination to the emperor of Vidal that does not exist in confederacies. The nations of Vidal are just a little weird for electing to form themselves as an empire when they could have just as easily become a confederacy. Although, it does kinda make sense given their war-like situation with Alda. A monarchic hierarchy would allow for quicker decision making, and in order to keep a monarchic hierarchy while still having individual rulers of each nation. Well, that's an empire.

 

Very deep man ,

 

I said similar in only one respect and that they're rulers, nothing deep, nothing complex, just simplicity. We also know that Emperor(s) normally don't give much face to a King(s) due to size of territory (countries annexed you stated), doctrines and military strength.

Name one thing that is normal in the Vidal Empire (other than food).

On your colonization bit, remember Great Britain was an empire but was ran by a King (most notable being King George the III, and this is before American Revolution).

Other than US, Ancient China and Warring Periods of Japan/Yamato, kinda surprised you didn't use the Holy Roman Empire (before it's fall) but then again Holy Roman Empire was similar to the Roman Empire (just Western part of Europe from the current day Germany to France) in terms of methods (domination and enforcement).

 

for Lambda even the food is not normal

 

Yes. I forget how they found out. It's possible that Rodcorte told Alda that Van is sabotaging his system by guiding souls away from it.

That depends. What is normal? Are we normal? Do we live normally? In truth, how is anything normal?

 

i don't think any of us can be considered normal as we all spend way to much time here. espesilly you

 

That was rhetorical. :V

 

*Feels site might be thinking of the terminology of normalcy*

Gonna clarify one thing, normal is just a mere word until emphasized (what is normal to Lambda is not so normal to Earth and so on so forth), I'm referring to Vidal Empire alone (not all of Lambda) since Vidal Empire is on a different scale at this point in time frame (new races/evolution of older ones, new foods, better living, stronger economy, senate/royalty/religious combined government (all Evil Gods/Vida-sided Gods/Goddesses, kings/queens (senate at this point) and Van), technology and applicability, and the works).

So, whoever is wanting to get philosophical, stop reading above the lines, not too big a fan of getting into these kinds of debates as its too complex and varies person to person.

 

Everybody is normal compared to Vandalieu

 

New chapter is out

 

Arigatou

 

Some important people talked about Van taming bugs and a haunted house.

The Hartner kid did a thing.

Van tried out one of his inner worlds. It's an extradimensional space, so he can't locate it in himself. I could be wrong with MTL, but it seems a bit... visceral.

Van noticed that something important is happening on Origin. Cliffhanger.

 

Summary Chapter 315

As Randolph was thinking that Van would never come to the capital of Orbaume, so were Duke Alcrem and his subordinates.

So a number of nobles, plus the duke and his military aggairs officer, were meeting to see what's to be done with Darcia and her son who just arrived. It seems they tried to get their spies, but simply put, Darcia and Van arrived too fast, they know they got a recommendation from Duke Alcrem, but the speed of decision is too unnatural for a newbie noble, so they understand that they seem to be colluding together, for whatever reason that is, however, as they are monitoring the situation, they also understand that there has been no contact between each parties, as in, since they arrived in Orbaume, they have not left. It's a fact that Chiplus and Kimberly can send any mails fast and without catching attention.

Someone suggests he may be using mices or birds, because he seems to be a great tamer, he also wants a tamer to be part of the intelligence agents., bot someone else announces that he has been able to tame insects, and this is new info, and that gets them all by surprise, but the info is complemented by the fact the insects shown were mere rank 1 monsters (The intelligence agents are not as good as Orlock who noticed something more there), but in any case, the insects are not an immediate problem, the haunted mansion is!

To a young noble, Jetarpo (ジェターボ), Van is sharpening his fangs by making a territory base in open air, in the middle of the noble district of the capital. The noble mansion they bought was the mansion the young brother of former Duke Jahan (First time I saw the former owner being mentioned.). Being all paranoid about Van, they try to calm down, and if they attack Van and Darcia over some conspiracy, they could fight back, and although (they think) they won't win against every adventurer in the capital, they will still suffer heavy losses. Of course, Van and Darcia would obliterate the capital if such a case happened.

To Dolmad, they are astute, they arrived in the city by legitimate means, bought a residence legally, there are no problems, if he knew they were coming he could have prepared something, but it's too late to act now. They wonder if they should expect some sort of intention from Senorpa Commerce, but they recognize if there are any culprits, it's themselves for preparing such an ideal "undead fort" aside. They then decide to check on any other haunted house with the temples, and then do something about Dukes of Alcrem and Jahan. Need to deal with them fast before Van "tames" them too and increases his power. That should be taken as an attack, because they are only dealing with protecting the capital from risky menaces. The Duke tells them to never directly say they are dealing with the undead, which is the correct option, because they are unaware of how easy Van can "tame" them.

They wonder about the undead under Van, but it seems there has been reported no problems at all, because there is no law explicitly prohibiting them (It was impossible, after all). They consider the idea of "unsaid laws", since people are not good with undead, so they even consider blaming Alcrem for not warning Darcia, his "protegeé". They wonder if they can do something directly against the undead, but because it's the jurisdiction of the Tamer's Guild, they can't do anything, they consider forcing them into some unsaid noble manners, but that would be directly meddling with the affairs of another duchy, even thought Orbaume is said to be democratic, of course, there is a lot of manipulation down there. They thought about using their superior noble power to "force manners" on the weaker noble, so they thought about forcing the Tamer's guild to prohibit undead.

That's when Jetarpo and other nobles reminded them "Van is not in a weak position!". They also comment that to tamers, their monsters are sometimes more than just slaves, and can be treated like a knight and his beloved horse. And that's common with Tamers, if you try to meddle there, things could get personal, plus the guildmaster is a man named Orlock, and he will not give easily to authority, he will protest in favor of his best interests.

They still have decided on nothing of what to do... Prohibiting the already revealed undead would be similar to getting his antipathy. The nobles faces turn white, and Dolmad continues saying they should rely on the temple to protect against undead. They will continue with small movements dealing with other undeads, until a the situation changes.

Then they wonder about the Adventurer's school, so they thought about getting another person to infiltrate there, not only to get more info, but also maybe to get closer with him or something. As long as they don't interfere with the "Student's autonomy", they should be Meorilith and Randolph/Dandolip shouldn't bother them.


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Meanwhile, Katie was walking at night without any maids around. Her father sent soldiers to the Scylla territory, and she knows that the territory is from Van according to information she got from the Angels. She is worried that sending such soldiers could be considered an aggressive attack on Van. But at the same time, from the info she got, she understood that Van is not one to do aggressive retaliation, he doesn't send armies of undead, nor assassins to each duchy to assassinate them, nor spread diseases or kills people. She is worried his impression of Hartner is going from bad to worse... That won't recover easily... It's ok for now, but not for the future.

She knows of the forced work on the refugees, she used Urd to check on the past, how the first princess of Talosheim was killed together with her escorts, and worse, they were slaves until soon before she was reborn, she can only feel lucky that her parent and uncle are not dead yet, but it may not be for long. She knows of her father sending Knights to the cultivation villages protected by Van to kill the villagers, but they were all killed instead, which is good, because if a single villagers was killed, her father would be dead. And from that massacre, those elite forces have never been completely restructured, which is the best result for her (Do not attack Van!)

Although if that had happened maybe things wouldn't be so hard now, she wouldn't know her father and care less about him, and her uncle would have been the duke... That's not the case now. She saw those acts using Urd, and that kinda pissed her of about her father's methods, but she knows there is no black and white from her experiences in Earth and Origin, , even Bravers had their black works, like what was done to Gazer and the fact some bravers turned to 8th Guidance, although she thinks the "traitors" had their own share of guilt there, so it's a case by case scenario.

She lost some respect for her father, but the emotions of a daughter towards her father are still there. She has been training her Urd power, and while in Origin she was able to reach the point of hearing sounds, in Lambda she was able to turn the past visible temporarily like a projector. She has been training herself, Fatigue Tolerance has been quite helpful for her infant body. She goes to the top of the castle, and activates Spirit Descent, also using Urd to project "nothing" at the pillar, learning more info from the angels.

The Sauron forces were defeated, but specially the Alcrem forces, one was killed, the other suffered heavy losses, but there is no doubt, Alcrem is a colaborator, they know that because the people that Rod can't check anymore have been increasing in Alcrem's territory, but contrary to Katie's idea that Van is allying for convenience, Van's relationship with him is that of an accomplice/real ally. Anyway, this could only mean the reasons the forces of Alcrem had the highest damage is because somehow they could be reversed later, like the dead knight never died.

Lucas Hartner had the idea of sending his Elite Force towards Sauron to recover some credibility on his military forces, but Urd used her ability and projected a powerful dragon far away, forcing some of the forces to remain in case they were needed, she used all her MP with Spirit Descent, but she was able to save some soldiers lives. Of course, as a child, nobody would listen to her military or political suggestions, so she is building a track record, so that one day they can apologize about the whole Talosheim incident from their ancestors. Katie suffers still being a child.

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Meanwhile, Van is making preparations, by hearing from the spirits around the city, he has been targetting criminals as their targets of vengeance and sending them to Talosheim. To do that, they are packing people into boxes, and Bellmond petrifies them. Of course, spirits sometimes forgets details, but they can track down their knowledge with some of Luciliano and Isla creative acts, the culprits will be used as labor, experiments and so on.

One of the criminals is trying to casually intimidate Van and Bellmond with his influence (I guess he must be a noble?), but Van and Bellmond don't care, Van tells Bellmond to put him in the smallest box, she folds his limbs trying to get him into, but all he can do is scream now. The Legion sends them to Talosheim.

Van and Bellmond start looking around at the weird place, this is one of Van's worlds, Bellmond is still impressed, there are trees and crops, but if you look above, there is something pink pulsating next to a magic lamp. Van doesn't know where these worlds are kept physically, he looked everywhere inside of him, but nothing could be found. He also wondered if being hurt would cause something inside, this is important info since Van's main fighting method relies a lot of sacrificing his limbs and them regenerating later, the problem is that he is an emperor, and Bellmond warns him against harming himself, or she will tell Darcia...

Van can't do anything against her, and decides to brush her tail. Bellmond warns him that he should sleep, like always, with his mother and all, which was his promise to his mother, but she reminds him they are inside his body, who is sleeping with Darcia, so his body is properly sleeping, and that Van is one of 10, one in each inner world, and they can't leave the world.

Just as he was going to start to brush, he stops, he sensed something bad in Origin, and he may be the time where he needs to go to the world he shouldn't go to. (Can't understand the detail here.)

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So Urd is now one of Rod's soldiers, somehow, I don't think the angels will tell her "You know Kanako? She is with Van now, you could try doing that too". Poor Urd, guess she will remain as an enemy for some time.

Duke Alcrem decides to deal with the spirits around the town, without knowing they already reached to Van, who cleaned the criminals in Orbaume, considering there may have been a number of nobles there, that should give some repercussions around.

FINALLY VAN AND MEI!? Could this be the start of a main sub-arc, similar to Birkyne and Fittun each in Arc 10?

 

Wouldn't be surprising if she tried to contact Asagi/hypocrite later on to try and join the 'peacekeeping force', the three stooges at this point have very little matter tbh (already did their job first time around with the consulting with batch one to decide on killing Van (murakami and co, including Kanako/Doug/Samada-Samantha before they popped smoke) and try to talk to Van (Asagi/Hypocrite and co basically)).

Tbh was kinda hoping later on she'd be guided into Vida's circle, kinda like her tbh (not as much as Kanako but still like her a bit), too bad can't really see her as part of Van's harem in any possible scenario (maybe Jemini or Kari, but not I).

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE PREPARE FOR THE SECOND DIFFERENT DIMENSION WAR TO COMMENCE!!!!!!!

Edit: couldn't resist

 

Jemini and kari noy here though

 

Btw if Demon King Circle destroyed isn't future of Tamer Guild is dark.

 

I'm stating that they might have a better idea if she does join Van's harem or not whereas I just can't see her in it (just like Selen).