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The second one

Sorry to you guys but it's all acording my plan mwahahaha.

 

Quick summary of latest chapter:

Druid is on a transport plane with 3 other Bravers, 2 of which have been Guided by Van/Bander. Druid has a bad feeling about the situation. They get attacked by an evil Braver flying the latest fighter jet but one of the other Bravers is able to put the missile to "sleep" once it gets close enough - originally his ability didn't work on inorganic things but it did once he started doing baby-sitting (heh). Druid breaks out his secret weapon... which is not a transformation stick but a crazy strong mould, which he uses to down the fighter jet and kill the enemy Braver (though Druid isn't aware that the enemy is a Braver). Unfortunately the same mould also ruins the transport plane but everyone escapes safely. The mould was made by Mei under instruction from Bander.

Meanwhile in Africa, Narumi and Baker (another Braver with codename "Hermes", who has shown up briefly before) are being attacked by soldiers. There's some local support but not much and reinforcements are being delayed because the local government officials are on Avalon's side. It seems there isn't an evil Braver on the other side this time and when a fly car turns up and reflects the enemy bullets back at them (Echo's ability), the attacking soldiers retreat. Narumi is able to connect with Ulrica via "Angel" so confirms the evil looking flying car is friendly.

Bander isn't too happy with his abilities being considered part of the "Bravers" but thinks it's a good thing that Mei and Hiroshi are close with their mother (Bander is all for happy families). However, he himself isn't at all keen to explain his background to Narumi and tells her to think of him as Mei's guardian spirit. Narumi considers it her/their responsibility to take care of Avalon and is quite willing to trust Bander because he protected the kids. Incidentally, Bander has no resemblance to "Amamiya Hiroto" and doesn't sound the same either so Narumi has no suspicions about who he is. Bander says he'll take care of the kids (and Ulrica) and suggests they go to where Mari (Metamorph) is. Mei is excited to see Mari-chan and the other partial death mages (who she refers to with cute nicknames), so they all get back into the car. And Narumi joins them. Bander is fine with that since he hopes Narumi can help with explaining things to Hiroto and persuading him. Cue the start of another explanation sequence.

 

...Is this one of those things that makes just as much sense in context?

...which means Mei is already being taught how to use magic.

"And now for something completely different!"

I understand what's happening and all, but this is so fucking surreal. This could only be more surreal if it was Sam Knochen instead of a car.

In a way, the death attribute is a cheat. From a certain perspective.

Banda: "You get a vague explanation, but NOT MY ANGSTY BACKSTORY."
Narumi: "But-"
Banda: "We definitely never met in a past life. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it."

 

Let's start with names then:
Derrick Sander - Chiron
Nanamori Misato - Asclepius
Yodo Masaki - Sandman
Yoshihiko Nishikage - Sleipnir

Japanese names in family /given name order.

I won't call it summary anymore, since indeed it's all too long, and I'm pretty much making a pseudo-translation of the chapter. So I'm going to call it light translation as suggested by Loki.

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Joseph said out slightly loud that he had a bad feeling looking at the comfortable military plane when he looked at who he was going with. Hearing that, Derrick greeted him with a joke, what if Druid changed his job to be a babysitter. Similar to Joseph and Murakami, he was a also a teacher in his previous life. If Banda knew him, he could be described as "Asagi with a sense of distance". Joseph finds him annoying. Even though it may look like Derrick may have some sort of problem with Joseph, in truth he is worried for his colleague.

Joseph corrects him taking about the other two going with them, Derrick looks at them and wonders if those 2 also didn't had similar problems lately. The two reply that they agree with Joseph on the bad feeling.

In Earth they were students from another class in regards to Amamiya. Asclepius was stressed out and wanted to retire from Bravers, Sandman looked fine from outside, but was having suicide thoughts. They met Van in a dream and recovered, joining Druid in escorting Hiroshi and Mei.

In regards to the mission though, the selection is too weird. Did can control plants, Asclepius has the about to double the effects of recovery magic (important to note here, it's not life magic only), it's said that if there is I only 1% of saving someone, he can do it. Sandman has the ability to make any living being "sleep" in a range of 100m, even the smallest bacteria. Derrick has the ability to improve learning of target, and growth promotion of the target, he is the one responsible for some of the military training Bravers had, being fast and efficient,but his own fighting power is the same as a normal person.

Derrick believes they have only been selected because there was no one else available, besides its just escort, should be easy, as he patted Joseph's shoulders and boarded the plane. But Joseph knows that this could be a trap from Avalon. The three made eye contact and boarded the plane too.

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A few minutes later, after leaving the "US" airspace, the missile alert is triggered. A friendly fighter jet is locked at them, and a missile was fired. Avalon prepared many surprises to guarantee their death: Explosives in the cabin, the pilot leaves the plane, Sandman feels like he already can guess what's up, but Derrick is not. He suggests to use the decoy, or the parachutes, but Joseph notices that the parachute was destroyed, and the decoy (most likely another plane) isn't doing anything either. Asclepius also notices that if they were to leave, they would be showered by bullets, and Sandman hates bullets and doesn't mind missiles. The 3 are calm, while Derrick is angry at the two pilots.

In Origin where Magic exists tactics to deal with such situations are not impossible, and Bravers should have enough experience dealing with such things. Derrick curses, and gives the plan to use magic to decelerate or glide to escape from the fighter. but although he is the best teacher, he himself doesn't have much battle experience. Derrick then calls up to the pilots and they will try something, and tell the "babysitters" to watch over themselves. Derrick was trying to save the pilots, and most likely Joseph who should have been mentally unstable.

But Joseph held him by the shoulders telling him to prepare for impact, Chiron should be able to help them to prepare for escape, and then one of the pilots warned that the missile had arrived, screaming as if he was going to die. Derrick closed his eyes tight, remembering his lover who he was going to propose after this mission.

And then there was a dull sound of something hitting and bouncing off at the cabin. Sandman told them that he made the missile fail. Derrick remembered his ability should work in inanimate objects, but the reply was that was before he started babysitting, the range is the same, he can stop the explosion, but he can't stop the inertia. Asclepius informed that he restored the broken part with his ability, also informing Derrick that his ability evolved since he started babysitting. Derrick could only stare, as he never saw anyone saying they were able to grow their own abilities before, but the same with those two, it was all thanks to the dream with Vandalieu (not Banda). Vandalieu appeared with an undead carriage running in the sky, and received a piece of his soul.

Sandman informs them that the fighter is too far away so he can only hope the pilot will give up, then the pilot warns that the plane is approaching, and they will use machine guns, to which Sandman replies he is no good with bullets, Derrick doesn't understand how he could defeat missiles but not bullets, but he explains there is no way to make the bullets "sleep", the gunpowder explosion happens before it leaves the muzzle, it's just a piece of metal, he can't absorb energy like Balor. That's Sandman's weakness.

Derrick looks at Asclepius hoping that he can restore the plane later, but is also shut down, as Asclepius has no more mana, plus hundreds of openings per minute would be ridiculous to fix in real time. He used all his mana trying to force his ability to work with Earth Attribute magic when restoring the plane before, it was a technique similar to self-hypnosis, and all that took a lot of mana.

Derrick then understands there is no other choice but to escape, he takes the parachute and tries to make it in a way that it could maybe work when they are being targeted by a jet fighter, but Druid told them if the plane approaches them, he can do something about it, but still, prepare for a escape route. He then opened an "amulet" given to him by Mei and Banda, and activated his ability.

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Druid didn't know, but the pilot in the jet fighter was a reincarnator, Sleipnir, his ability is to use the maximum performance of all vehicles and creatures he rides, for example, if he rides a bicycle, he will not lose to professionals, same if in a horse race. So as he is in the most modern jet fighter available he is simply the king of the skies now. But when he shot the missile and it didn't explode, he was surprised. He considered that Sandman had also hidden his ability. He could have shoot another missile, but he decided to trust his instinct, so he went for the machine gun, he just needs to not get to near his range.

Sleipner is there to guarantee that the reincarnators will die for sure, otherwise, there is a chance Joseph and the others would survive. And as he pressed the trigger of the machine gun, he gave his farewells, but all the bullets bounced of the plane. He considered that Sandman was also working on bullets, or maybe Asclepius had some new ability, but then he noticed something like grass, and understood that it was Druid, although how would he have such a large plant pass through the verification to enter the plane.

And then an alarm on his fighter was triggered surprising himself. He lost control of the aircraft and the output of the engines decreased, some sort of grass entered the fuselage and could be seen from the cockpit, and then he noticed it was mold, and there is mold on his plane too now. He had no time to consider how the heck did he got some mold that would even withstand machine guns. Sleipnir noticed he wouldn't be able to return, he had to escape now, but as the pilot seat is ejected, the parachute... does not open. The mold started corroding the metal and the parachute at a rapid pace. He took of the seat belt and tried to use magic to fly by himself. He can fly like a rock with Fire magic, and although it's harder to do than flying with Wind magic, it's still possible, but as long as its alive, that mold can eat anything, and Sleipnir notices that as he is consumed alive, falling in the sea without being noticed by Joseph at all.

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The pilots celebrate that the fighter seems to have been gone, and Joseph stopped his Druid while feeling relieved. Derrick however doesn't understand what did he do, as there should be no plants in this altitude, so Joseph explains the amulet, he had a special mold spore someone he knows made for him with magic, he grew it, made it harder than steel, prevented radiation like lead, and with proper antimagic processing can also endure spells likes a shield. Using the air conditionair he could spread them around and multiply with druid. The mold was made by Mei's death magic under Banda's supervision. the raw material is mere "black mold".

Sandman is worried if it was a good idea to spread such mold, and wonders if the mold got into the fighter too. Asclepius found it could have been used with the Missiles too if they knew about it, but Druid corrected them saying it's not a natural mold, and should died after about 1 minute, plus the spore wouldn't reach the fighter unless it approached them to some extent, besides they should prepare to escape.

As soon as he finished explaining, the cheering pilots screamed, the alarm was telling that something was happening to the plane. Derrick wonders if it was the mold, and Druid's confirms, as the mold spread it also ended up consuming the plane, which should now be quite fragile and shouldn't fly for too long now. Derrick tells him to stop being calm and escape, asking Asclepius to fix the Parachutes.

5 minutes after the fighter, the transport plane dropped in the sea while being disassembled in the air, the mold was dead and everyone escaped safely.

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Amemiya Narumi rescued victims from an earthquake that happened in a city in a country in Africa, when suddenly they were attacked by an armed group. She couldn't understand why such a thing was happening when rescue forces were around with the local government and supporting countries forces, yet such an open battle happened. Of course, since they are people from Avalon, or their equipment are in their latest models, and reinforcements were not arriving thanks to local government meddling in Avalon's request. They could only be defensive while protecting the people who were rescued and the other workers rescuing people.

There were 10 combatants still active, connected through Angel, and with Baker [Hermes] and his Object Creation were able to endure. But there are too many people they need to protect, so they can't enter offensive while reinforcements do not arrive. (The first part was weird

And then, a flying car appeared.

Nobody could understand what it was, someone even considered it was Sleipnir's ability making the vehicle fly. From the ground, it was a Black Van, but there were no wings or rocket engines, and there was something black on it. Attaching the car with six DK's suckers, Baker saw the figure of Banda's wings flying in the sky and reflexively started praying to Jesus. (I'm not sure how to write this better in English [I'm not native just in case it was not known], but Baker kinda seems Banda in an ominous way, hence the praying for protection against it. He is not praying to Banda. That's for sure.)

The armed group also had similar impressions, it has been an hour since the attack in the Amemiya residence, so they didn't had all that updated information, if they knew, they would have escaped at the first glance, but since they didn't, they started shooting the car.

Meanwhile, as bullets hit the Van, Hiroshi seemed to be scolding Ulrica, he was worried if they would be fine. Banda told them everything was fine, the car was already bulletproof, and now it's coated with his blood and exoskeleton. The glass was also replaced with the lens of his eyeball, so it should withstand even an anti-tank rifle. Mei doesn't know what is an anti-tank rifle, so Banda explains that is a weapon that shoots bullets and cars make a really loud noise.

The three are inside the car being held by a "seat belt tentacle", Hiroshi wasn't really scolding at Ulrica, rather, she fainted and he was trying to get her back. Banda then apologized to Ulrica, but also requested her to wake up. She was surprised at everything, and Banda requested her to use Echo at the armed forces attacking them.

And just as all the shots reverted back, things went silent, and then shouts that reinforcements had arrived. They were originally supposed to remain, but there were no plans for such a situation that could twist the situation against them, so the prepared to withdraw. Narumi's allies were pointing their guns as the car approached, but Narumi stopped them that it was an ally.

Narumi recognized Ulrica's ability, they questioned her if that's one of the Bravers' abilities, but she could only guess that it should be, and will contact Ultica once she enters her range to confirm. Usually the armies wouldn't be very appreciative of Bravers, but since they just helped in a fight to the death and were rescued, and after communications were done, Banda was accepted as an "Ability of Bravers".

Banda felt complicated as he watched the children running to their mother. Ulrica retorted that it was the children reuniting with their mother, but the problem with Banda is being recognized as an ability of Bravers, leading Ulrica to a tsukkomi. Banda says that like Ulrica, Joseph, Yodo and Nanamori, it would have been nice if he could be called part of the force... "Ulrica, should I cal you 'My Master'?" She tells him to stop or the pressure she will feel would kill her. Banda is looking at the children who are happy with their mother.

Narumi approaches him, as asking if he is really Banda, Mei's friend, who helped Ulrica and Joseph... Is he a person? He confirms, calling her "Mother of Me-kun and Hiroshi", and suggests her to think of him as a guardian spirit. He didn't feel anything while talking to Narumi, exchanging office-like greetings. He then asked her what she planned to do after all this, and suggested to wait for the problem to be fixed while helping the injured here. Banda will not reveal his identity to Narumi. He doesn't care if she finds out, but he has not reason reveal it himself.

Narumi however has other plans, Rokudou-kun, rather, Rokudou needs to be stopped from what he is doing, it's their responsibility. And although she doesn't seem to know Banda enough, she thank him for protecting her children. Of course, Narumi did not notice anything, as there is no resemblance between Amamiya and Banda. The voice and tones are completely different, if she could, she would have found out that the Undead and Hiroto Amemiya were the same person. Banda guessed she would give such an answer after all, so he offers to protect Mei, Hiroshi and Ulrica, and calls them so they can get Mari-chan.

Narumi is surprised that he would protect Ulrica too, she is happy at that, but Mari-chan? She asks where they are going, and notices that Mei is going with them too. Mei says they will meet with Mari-chan, and also Gab-chan, Bo-kun and Yuki too! Hiroshi calls his mother telling her that Banda is usually a nice person, but he sometimes doesn't listen to people at all, so she should consider that. With a dry laugh Banda jokingly threatens Hiroshi.

And as Mei and Hiroshi are entering the car, Ulrica does the same feeling remorseful. Meanwhile Baker still doesn't know what is happening, and tries to stop them that he will not let them flee, but Banda retorts that just because he says so, can he do anything? Baker stopped, he saw the bullet shower not doing anything against him, he knew there was nothing he could do. Then Narumi entered the car saying she wouldgo too, leading Banda to say "Eh?" out loud. Mei seems happy that Narumi will meet with Mari and the other 3 with her.

Since Narumi was already welcomed there was no way to suggest otherwise anymore. Banda accepts the situation, and explains that she will be of help to explain it to "Me-kun's father" in regards to explanations and necessary persuasions. Narumi accepts the task of explanations, but wonders what he means with the second part.

Then Mei tells Banda everything is ok and all, but she is hungry, so he notices it's about time for lunch, and says they will stop at a supermarket, someone else (Ulrica, Hiroshi or Narumi) questions if he is serious, and Banda replies that everything is fine, even the money, he got Balor's card and also knows the security code for it, so they can get something from a super market in Africa, they can wait for supermarkets in Europe or the middle-east if they have a problem with it. So Banda lifted the car again, now with one extra passenger, and went flying in the sky.

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corrections: the part with 10 combatants I had incorrectly written as 10 bravers. there were never 10 bravers there.

 

Moderately. Sandman had the ability to put stuff to sleep. It was limited to anything living and within his line of sight, but also included stuff he couldn't directly see- he was able to make bacteria or viruses go dormant. However, the cheats have room for growth.

When they started babysitting for Mei and meeting Banda in their dreams, it's implied that Vandalieu's guidance skills had an effect on them to accelerate that growth and expand their powers. In Sandman's case it meant that he learned to put certain non-living substances like explosives to sleep, allowing him to turn the missile into a dud. This doesn't work on bullets, though, since putting a chunk of metal to sleep doesn't slow it down.

 

I think @Bakanogami covered this already but yes. Baby-sitting Mei has now become the go-to method for mentally damaged Bravers to recover... and get a free power-up too.

We already saw that with Bander teaching Mei to use telepathy.

In my mind a flying (monster) car is only slightly surreal

If they try going to a drive-through take-away then it would get a bit more surreal I guess.

Having a cheat doesn't automatically make one a "Braver" though. Either way, Bander simply doesn't like being associated with the Bravers.

Bander: Trust me, you're better off not knowing.

 

managed to find it, it was on page 93. If you want more information look around there.

 

When the body of a demi-god dies, the soul still exists and Van can destroy/eat the soul. However, natural demi-god souls are not part of any reincarnation system. I don't believe they can be "promoted" to be "normal" gods either. I believe the author confirmed that generally the souls of demi-gods simply vanish over time after they die.

All souls don't automatically exist as part of a reincarnation system. Rodcorte has been spreading his system around the universe but that's his system, it's not something natural. The author hasn't gone into any real detail that I've seen on what happens on planets without a reincarnation system, such as the planet Gudiranis was from. Note that Gudiranis created a reincarnation system only after arriving on Lambda. There seems to be a weird set of conditions required to gain death attribute and reincarnation with previous memories seems to be one of them. Perhaps with the odd conditions (lack of a reincarnation system) on Gudiranis's planet, he was able to trigger some sort of self-reincarnation after death which lead to him gaining the death attribute.

 

so is Derrick better version of Asagi?
Should i happy there Many Braver that Van Guided or sad because that mean they have some sort mental problem?. Maybe Van didn't tell Narumi to lower posibility her shock to the truth and making her susceptible to his guider in the end, that why he didn't tell her. Well that will make Narumi more happy not knowing the one she search in front of him, damn Van make someone happier even if he didn't intend to.

 

Happy as it'll screw puny god miserably (and royally) and deny brainless his 'reinforcements' in Lambda. Not much I can think of in the sad AO other than Van makes a lot better of a psychotherapist than professionals.

Guess I'll be the only one hope seriously hopes Narumi loses it and gets guided in the end, haven't seen anyone else wish this.

 

Wasn't is that they have to make themselves a new body or get it from someone? I'm preety sure that the evil god from Schneider's party that used DK's reincarnation system to get new body was in similar situation.

 

Interesting you should say that considering the note the chapter ended on. (talking about the stop in between Banda's thinking about making before arriving where Mari is.)

 

I believe Lissana put herself through the DK's reincarnation system forcibly but she was still alive before she did that, I think (I tried to find a reference but couldn't). Note, she was a "true" god before (pure spirit/soul) but became a demi-god after reincarnation. Either way, her situation doesn't tell us anything about what happens to demi-gods when they die.

 

Seems so though I didn't get a particularly strong sense of his personality.

I'd put this down to Hiroto's failed management. People shouldn't be forced to be rescue workers etc against their will. Not that many are suited to such things, and even if you want to do such a thing it would be mentally hard to do.

Although part of the reason why Hiroto formed the Bravers was to protect them from various groups (eg the types that would investigate death attribute magic), at the same time he limited their options in life. In effect, he ended up imposing his beliefs on others, whether they liked it or not. Many didn't like it and so rebelled (like Kanako) or went over to the dark side or simply suffered mentally. It would be nice to see Bander/Van give Hiroto a good talking to about how his approach was doomed to fail from the start due to being unrealistic.

It's not tactical. He simply didn't want to discuss his background. He has been willing to discuss his background with others but it looks like he won't with Narumi and Hiroto.

 

..... I am sticking to Derrick Thunder *CUE 80 MOVIE TRAILER*

So, code names meaning:

Chiron (Kheiron): Most famous centaur (foreshadowing?) and teacher of heroes. 10/10 meaningful name.
Asclepius: Greek god of medicine. That, that it is.
Sandman: One of the seven Endless, who are inconceivably powerful beings older than gods. He is both the personification, as well as the lord over all dreams and stories, and all that is not in rea- *checks info* Sorry, wrong character. Sandman is basically a sleep fairy.
Sleipnir: Famous 8 legged horse given birth by Loki and Odin's mount. Said to be the Best. Horse. Ever. So, best mount = the best in any mount, I guess.

 

Rodcorte's angels also brought up a good point a month or two ago about the fact they could have been given positions they actually would've embraced and brought even more benefits to the Bravers, like having Kanako work in public relations instead of being an interrogator. This wasn't an either/or choice.

That being said I feel like Bander and Mei are also being comically cruel to Ulrica / Echo by forcing her into situations that exacerbate her PTSD. I mean sure, Avalon would try to kill her anyway if she was alone, but still.

It's really weird that Odin was riding his grandson. I mean Loki's not related to Odin in all versions of Norse myth, but it's still weird in the ones where he is. Anyway, I hope reincarnator Sleppy doesn't go against Van on Lambda, because otherwise I can see him getting killed and plugged into Cuatro as its auto-pilot.

 

Yeah even when we voulenter our self , we got tested physichally or mentally before we got permission to be rescue worker

Yeah me too , but maube Van case make Hiroto be feels his choice is correct but it's Bakacorte fault

 

I don't remember every giving birth to that.

 

Well, "public relations" doesn't mean being an idol, which was Kanako's dream. I think she would have been okay with being forced to play in Hiroto's "walled garden" and play by his rules so long as she could be an idol. Kanako had a particularly focused goal in life so it would have been hard to satisfy her with something clearly different to that goal, even if it has some small overlap. It could be said that Kanako is playing in Van's "walled garden" now but here's she's given a lot of freedom and support and it's precisely because of that that she's "bloomed" - it's not something that would have happened in some generic public relations job.

Well, yeah, it's definitely being done for comic effect. I don't think Bander has a huge amount of leeway though.

I don't think Van would see it that way. Rodcorte didn't force the creation of the Bravers. I think it's fair to say that Van/Bander has various problems with Hiroto and Narumi personally. He doesn't see them as victims of Rodcorte.

 

Hmm, it's Puny God's fault for Narumi and Amemiya Hiroto for exposing people who're wanting to live their lives, push responsibilities onto others and even got some painted a lovely big red target on their backs. Sorry but Like Kari said, he wouldn't see that as victims of Puny God's actions, but their own stupidity (personal opinion this small bit).