Discussion Why do people like NTR?

Discussion in 'Anime Discussion' started by welcome the novel, Mar 25, 2020.

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Do you like NTR?

  1. yes

    25.5%
  2. no

    60.8%
  3. haven't heard of it

    7.8%
  4. watch it just to get off

    23.5%
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  1. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    I hate to break it to you but NTR are required for any good romance.
    The best romances are emotional affairs.
    Jack from Titanic stole Rose from Billy Zane's character.
    Mary-Jane had an emotional affair with Spiderman while dating Harry.
    Even Lois Lane cheated on Clark with his alter ego Superman lol.

    Unless you want infantile stories and lazy power fantasies, NTR or affairs are needed.

    Then again maybe your are referring to a narrow definition of the word
     
  2. Lazriser

    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    Oddly, affairs in Western stories aren't that awful to me in comparison to Asian stories. Probably be a cultural thing. Maybe because the Japanese take NTR to the next level of fetishes. Also, the IQ of couples in most NTR are dumb as shit. In truth, these women have Stockholm Syndrome. Then again, it's all fiction with cuckoldry taken up to an extreme.
     
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    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Arguably Lois "cheating" on Superman was passable seeing as how the person with the Superman mantle is usu. Clark Kent.
     
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    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    A quick question for you, but do you consider it cheating when your partner wants to do it with your amnesiac self?
     
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    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    Body wise, perhaps not as those 2 personas are sharing the same body. Personality wise, maybe. If it is an amnesiac self that is from an alternate timeline/universe, probably.
     
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    Lazriser Well-Known Member

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    Just you in the present timeline but with a different personality due to amnesia.
     
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    Kadmos1 Well-Known Member

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    O.K., as much as I love technicalities, this actually got me on this. Maybe or maybe not.
     
  8. LucindaBenson

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    Oh, i like
     
  9. Zephir

    Zephir New Member

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    Autistic cuck fetish, I don't mind it tbh
     
  10. Kaithar

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    I have to disagree... far too many romance drama stories introduce some kind of love triangle as a cheap gimmick to justify a character or generate artificial progression because the main romance is too generic.
    To throw one of your own examples under the bus, how does Jack stealing Rose from that guy actually meaningfully progress the story in a way that couldn't be done better by having that character completely replaced with a disapproving father? Father is taking her along, doesn't approve of Rose mixing with the lower classes, has far more convincing authority to restrict Rose without reducing the character, has more plausible capacity and innocence for the framing plot, and Rose has more emotional attachment to explore when running away.
    Literally the only thing gained from the character is an upper class ass that the hero can steal a girl from... the standard "breaking up a relationship because you're more deserving" trope.

    Of course, when it's not "stealing relationships is cool", it's usually "women are cheating harlots who can't be trusted" ... Hollywood has some serious issues that need working through, it makes Romeo and Juliet seem perfectly rational and well planned.

    Sorry, ranting about the wrong thing. What I meant to rant about...

    NTR is not the same as affair ... it has specific ingredients:
    1. A-san is dating C-san ...
    2. A-san is screwing B-san (and maybe D-san, E-san, and the entire neighbourhood) ...
    3. C-san is aware of exactly what A-san is doing and finds it more enjoyable than actually doing stuff with A-san.
    That third ingredient is essential, remove the cuck and the story fully devolves to another established genre, be that adultery, blackmail, harem or whatever. I personally am of the opinion that for any given fetish, people are sexually aroused by the unique "feature" of that fetish... Feet fetishists are aroused by feet, so NTR fetishists are presumably aroused by cucks.

    More charitably, the dynamic requires 3 people, so it could be that people who like it find any of them interesting...
    1. Some garbage human being that thinks it's totally fine sleeping with random married women just because they can.
    2. Some garbage human being that sleeps with anyone that pokes her and doesn't care if her husband knows.
    3. Some garbage human being that seems to be aroused by being subject to domestic abuse and often encourages is.
    One component of this horrible relationship is apparently worthy of appeal. I'd probably find the whole thing less stupid if, at least once in a while, the NTR'd protagonist snapped and karma'd them all the way to the hospital. Say what you want of some of the more common Chinese novel tropes, they have some really really good revenge novels. At least with high gore quotient novels everyone goes in with an understanding that you leave your humanity at the front desk and no expectation of redeeming qualities.

    Now if NTR went all Dungeon Seeker Junpei, that'd be an interesting read. Or at least mildly less rage inducing *shrug*
    Just my personal opinion though.
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Sorry but you are wrong. No need to be wordy
    Good romance stories are usually based on emotional affairs most of the time.
    If you think NTR and affair are not synonyms, then you need to brush up on your Japanese.
    Cheers!
     
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    Maybe my understanding of Japanese isn't quite good enough to see how 寝取 and 浮気 are supposed to be interpreted the same, given that they sound like they're meant to be interpreted completely differently even though the basic meaning is similar, however that's actually completely irrelevant. NTR is a specific fetish based genre with a very specific meaning... I'd say you need to brush up on your NTR hentai, but I'm not going to inflict that on you.
    As for your poor taste in romance plots, not much that can be helped there.
     
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    Taking something valuable from someone in this case their lover is pure adrenaline for some people. My state is full of these freaks.
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    I hate to break it to you but this is a novel database.
    Not a hentai database.
    NTR was obviously borrowed for use here and none of the people using it are native Japanese speakers
    It is used colloquially.
    Do you seriously believe that Chinese novels meet the standard definition of NTR?
    You are being needlessly wordy.
    Since you are resulting to personal attacks, I shouldn't waste my time talking to a wall.
     
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    With respect...
    1. This is posted in the anime discussions area
    2. The poll contains the option "watch it just to get off"
    3. The discussion in pretty much every post makes it clear that what is being discussed is specifically the fetish and media related to it.
    I'm not sure how dense a person would need to be to not have those clues and still make the argument you're making, but I can only assume you didn't actually read any of the replies before posting. I will also point out that it was you who brought up Japanese to claim the words were synonyms, so trying to turn it around and claim the Japanese meaning isn't relevant only serves to make you look silly.
    Also, why are you trying bring up the genre variations used in Chinese novels?

    I can't shake the feeling that your complaints about wordy replies stems from trying to ignore criticism.
    As for the personal attacks ... when one attempts to assert their opinion as being absolute fact, scorn is generally what follows. I can't think of many places where such a progression would have shocked anyone who recognised the improper argument.
     
  16. Irlin-senpai

    Irlin-senpai I ain't got a Clue(-chan)

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    I read them just to get off. I mean the scenes are better. As for the story or plot, I never read them. Only the scenes are what I read for. I usually don't even know how the ητπ came to in the first palace.

    And why I like the scenes specifically? Reluctant girls drowned in pleasures are…
     
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    Kumo723 玄夜的帝后

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    whats ntr
     
  18. Shem

    Shem ┃ᐕ) ⁾⁾「Lv 69 BL Hunter」☆ Vrelty's Seme ♤♡ ꪋς꧖ ☆

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    I’m not into that but I think to understand stuff like that its worth pointing out that there is a difference between fantasy and reality. People who can differentiate between them. Like for example, I like twisted, gory manga/anime, I like the killing and the manipulation, but if someone were actually killed in front of me, I would freak the hell out and it would still be an emotionally scaring experience.

    Likewise somebody might be into NTR doesn’t necessarily mean that they would want to be a cuckhold in real life. I think moreso that people enjoy things that are taboo or not openly talked about.

    Also, for the sake of porn. Lol
     
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    it is actually a secret project made by the Japanese government which is adopted by the CIA for widespread use so the agents will know who to fucking off when Judgement Day comes
     
  20. Kumo723

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