Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

I hope those children may have a limited Life span, otherwise there will be a problem with overpopulation in lambda in the distant future.

Regardless of people accepting or not, it is already a accepted demand... reward for all Vidal Empire Citizens, whatever race they are, to be recognized as a "person" by Orbaum.

Also, people ALREADY ARE welcoming them. Don't anyone remember the girl asking conseuling from Van about hoe to take a Demon as a boyfriend? Same chapter where Miriam asks Van about what he did for her get cursed with a guider job.

There was a chapter when Duke Tuckerd (Alcrem) where thinking about his first visit to Talosheim. He didn't felt repulse like he thought he would the first time he saw those undead - Guidance Effect.

Well~ Goddess of holy spear will also be the goddess of a transforming hero, she also feels safer than before the meeting after her reunion with Van, she realised he was serious about taking them in without any hard demand and listenning to their worries.

There were 5 gods conting with Elk (?), hopefully each of them will also give their DP to some of Van companions and subordinates... I am expecting Juliana and Mickael (Divine Spear) to receive her divine protection. Don't know much about the other gods so i can't figure out who could receive new blessings.

By the way, any tips about that god of heat (Rubickent?) who has abondoned Carlos? Was he together with elk group defecting to Vida side but just not mentioned? Autor could have left a side note or something describing the name of each elk's group gods and their abilities... what exactly their priesthood are.

EDIT: For those who don't accept it and neither get guided... They can just f**k off

 

Does he mean experimental drugs, aphrodosiacs, or Viagra? The situation is rather ambiguous.

But... the ghost. How? How do ghosts have babies? They are literally incorporeal.

The origin story of vampires and ghouls more or less told us that this is what would happen when undead start procreating, so it's not really a surprise. Still, this is a huge breakthrough from a scientific/medical angle.

Okay, but what are the benefits?

I don't know why Mei is affected, and that really bothers me for some reason.

 

I doubt it, we were more or less shown what gods there were for their treasures, and if he had been among them he would have stood out (although Densuke is human and would not blame him if he forgets a character or two), what I wonder is how he They are going to adapt to the new modality, the atmosphere of Alda's faction is like that of a school or company in which your popularity is everything, while that of Life almost everyone is equal and they fight and mock each other

 

Chances really are that Rubickent isn't with elk group. Regarding the other gods and elk herself we can't figure out their atributte. Elk may be light atribute... or wind atribute or another one, we don't know;

The god with a pen might be a light god, similar to how curatos is a god of records.

The guy with a Holy Cow must be Life atributte, but we don't know exactly his priesthood - he may be a Farmer god especialised in kettle or the cow is just a simbol and is a full fledged farmer god, who knows - and some gods have a misleading appearence like the god of live stock - if i remember well was eaten by Van in Botin Defence Games and has the appearence of Zantark's subordinate god, but was actually a wind atributte one.

Either way it would have be good if when they gave their holy simbols for covenant they could have repeated their names with their respective priesthood to put everything on table for us, readers, to know.

Alda faction is a vertical organization with alda on top, at worst is like Adolf Hitler Goverment, at best a strict hierarquical organization.

They may get puzzled with a change in enviroment like they were back as students at school, but this will give'em the oportunity to interact with Vida's gods more.

Even if they think the enviroment is a little too carefree, I get the feeling they will get along well with Verd (cause he feels the same sometimes)

 

I don't think over population is going to be a issue for a very long time. Remember; due to Gud's war, the Vida war, Alda's dumb rules, Bellend's zealots and monsters, the population has been incredibly small for how much time has past. An entire continent has been left abandoned alongside other issues. Rodiot wanted to develop this world just so there would be more people who would be born and die. While longevity may be a issue, there are still creatures like vampires, elves, or other races with the same extreme long life issue that have not dominated due to various things. Sides, its van. If they need more housing he could make a castle. If they need more land, he'll find a way to make more.

 

Dear god is that true. if the population was under a standard and steady exponential growth curve, to go from 3,000 to 100,000,000 in 100 milenia requires a growth rate where the population double every ~6655.7116 years, even in medieval times with all the wars and starvation the population still went up at like 10% every century (doubling in about 8 centuries) and it was limited by food production limits in a way that the dungeons kind of negate for Lamda.

 

Van can literally make dungeon, don't worry about land or resource. Also all battle gods is under Zantark in past, a God of Pen probaly wind attribute since they responsibility for art too or maybe water since it knowlegde. I am more into knowlegde one. Botin and Peria subordinate in dilemma. I think all production champion are know that the hardest part in war is Logistic and aftermath of war, Hillow is actor right(he probaly read a lot novel and script), Zakkart literally in his lowest of his life so he know the despair feeling, and lot of them are older than battle champion, bellwood, nineroad, and farmaun still in college. If my memory a correct.

 

I was thinking the same thing a while ago actually. At the speed Luciano and Van's experiments are going there will definitely end up being space and resources problems, but dungeons resolve all that, and who is to say that Van will not someday be able to make monsterless dungeons to use exclusively as residencial areas. Which he actually is already doing thinking about it, personal beach anyone? I can see the day when leaving the dungeon and exploring the surface of Lambda become some kind of coming of age ritual .

That's right! In the future every races will have [Morlock] as part of it's name!

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Believe me, Touhou fans wonder the exact same thing whenever the topic of Myon comes about.

Well, Me-kun isn't 5 yet, so the possibility of her having been isekai'd by the almighty Truck-kun and not having her past memories yet is not out of the way. Or maybe it have something to do with her having been Touched by the Vans AKA Banda essentially being part of her body.

 

I doubt that the population is a problem, remember that Talosheim is at the forefront in the world of contraceptives, but it has long been flooded with Ghouls and Goblins, on resources it is not a problem either, essential life resources come from the dungeons and are dealt with by undead titans who retained their intelligence even without the charm and even now there is a shortage thanks to the conservative magic of vandeliu while space there are like three unused bats

It does not seem so strange to me, the ghosts of this story can take a solid form made of spirit, there are many ways to work with fact, such as creating an endoskeleton with the implanted organs and having the ghost cover it or perform an operation and implant them while is in solid spiritual form, my question in the last case is if the pregnancy is maintained by returning to the etheric form or has to be maintained always until delivery

 

I already have kids with Djinn so it not weird at all

 

remember this is just one planet in that universe, with van and the other god working together tarraforming or making another world is not an issue, so even if they run out of space there still tons of space to run around in.

 

That makes me wonder if Van will expand through the solar system, why do we even know that Lambda is not a pocket dimension so there should be more planets orbiting its star, will they be the same as our dimension? will there be aliens? I would like to see Van going to some extraterrestrial planet, only for him to be in the place of the super advanced and extremely strange race

 

Millions of years after, in the millionth anniversary of the vidal empire, vanzathoth would descend into the world, turning all devotees mad(lol).

 

Luciano's research is mostly similar to Vida and Zakkart's, making undead children. So basically the zombie children are like a relative or belong to the same species of undead as ghouls and vampires. This makes me think how amazing Luciano is, even with Van's help. He was able to replicate something a goddess had done. Tbh, he might be the most talented person in Lambda. Ignore the heroes like Heinz who helps the decline of population Van and Luciano should be praise.

PS Heinz is not a hero, there is none, nothing that he had done that would make him heroic.

 

Except in Alma's mind. Reviving Bellwood could have counted, except Bellwood immediatly said exactly why he was no longer active and Heinz ignored it to give Alda a (figurative) blowjob.

 

If he attack Vahn daughter hoo boy, it seem Heinz is lucky

 

That makes me wonder, when they brought Mei and the others to Lambda, did they use the Rinkclent root? or did they use their own substitute made of life gold and spiritual silver? I did not understand it by the translation

 

possibly the same resources that Legion has, life gold and the fleshy things from Vida's resurection device.

 

Talking about Luciliano, I wonder if he still have his [Depraved] Title? 'Cause I remember him fearing losing it a long while back since his experiments were not concidered that out there by Talosheim stardards and are pretty much the norm by now. Which also bring the topic of losing Titles and wether or not someone can lose something like the [Hero] Titles, like say, Heinz losing it, just to drive the stake a little further in.

I don't really remember if Van used Flesh-chan to make them (Me-kun, Hiro and the junior division of the 8G) new bodies or he just went full Bonesaw and modded them to hell and back. Maybe even literally in the hell part.

 

Mei had a death experience when she was just a fetilized egg due to pluto attacking Narumi and came back to life after pluto redo her disease spell.

Ressuraction & reincarnation are similar thus reason why she is affected by spirit guidance (if Black Maria... Metamorph who has undergone the ressuraction thing as avalon experiment isn't under this guidance we may concluse it is due to death atrib. charm she possess, It was explained that other than spirits the guidance might affect spiritualists)

Creating, making a new planet may be a solution for Van, otherwise it may be a problem for imortal races population keeping existings in billions.

There is also the problem regarding the burden in the rebirth system if life forms don't die, remember that neither Rodcorts or the familiar spirit trio knows which kind of state is vida system and how heck it keeps working...