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  1. emersy

    emersy Well-Known Member

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    By the end of the "DK Avalon" in Lambda, Guf is already rank 16. And so is Borkus

    Remember that Tiamat made a new race of Majin and Kajin witheir ancestor. It is stated that she birthed hundreds of those children.

    Zantark already transformed the entire Dark continent as his divine realm (due to some obvious reasons). Van even noticed how different the atmosphere of the continent as it is the largest devil's nest than the devil's nest in Sauron for example.
    with Asagi's personality bruh, I wont be surprised if he failed to even formed a party capable of fighting Van.



    If the Pureblood and their noble/sub vampires where all became a abyssal vampires Alda wont have an upperhand if he were to used the light attribute tactict. And remember a small portion of gods from his faction has already side themselves with Vida. And his leashed on Rod as a power producing source is not very trusthworthy. As I said before Rod is in the same position as Vida before. Vida cant give blessings and make sub gods and heroic spirits when she were at that state so the similar circumstances can be apply to Rod. The only thing that stabilize (i think) his powers because the system is still running thanks to his familiar spirits. But those spirits are planning to kill him with the help of other gods. If the gods of the other worlds were to make an agreement that all of them will manage the system by working together that will make Rod useless to Alda. If the world the Gods govern is similar to Earth 1, Earth 2, and Origin where they dont have direct control on the situation unless something dangerous were to appear, then their work of simply watching over their people would be replace by managing them like other reincarnation series/novels. There would be no Rod using the souls of their people for his own selfish reasons i.e. the 101 reincarnators.(their only mission is to develop Lambda so that it would be overpopulated like the Earths).

    Rod ; more souls, more power.
    Me; no soul, no power.
    Papa John's; Better ingredients. Better pizza.
    IHOP; Come hungry, leave happy
    Walmart; Save money, live better.
    One Direction; One way or Another
     
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    I checked it and thankfully that's right. Gufa is really already rank 16 - lv 98 :blobparty: - don't know when she got van DP, through. :blobsad:

    Those guys aren't 'dragons', they are basically a variant of Majin and kijin, Maryuujin and kiryuujin, made by Tiamat. Still, they do count as the majins and kijins with Zantark I mentioned before

    There sure will be artifacts with the same effects as nemesis bell, Van vampires needs to be carefull nonetheless.

    About the angels acquire help from otherworlds gods, remember that when Inspector-chan tried to talk about reincanation management she suddenly talks like speaking an unknown language.

    Reincarnation matters can only be understood by those with the same or similar deities. Reason why Avalon could understand Rod and Van understood Vida regarding the reincarnation system . If borrow another god for help were so simple then alda would already be in charge of the reincarnation system by now
     
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    I thought, what do you think would happen if, in the battle against Alda, he gained life but Vandalieu dies and is sealed, as they think he would continue?
     
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    Nakakure Zadiris Empress Faction. NNN member Nr.1.

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    Unless there some kind bullshit happens, it rare, even Vida need meditation together with Darcia in soul to make Darcia her Miko. So unless alda discard his Value and did samething extreme
     
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    It would be cool if Van would open Dungeon in Space outside Lambada in which would he breed rank 16 Elder God's like from WoW, which he would use to invide other world ;D
     
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    no, i was wondering how the story would progress if vandalu was defeated but still life would win the gerra
     
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    In the hypothetical case that this happened, Van would become the emperor of humanity and the inhabitants of the empire would initiate an eternal crusade to liberate him.
     
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    Peria, only in her thoughts, said that in the future, ever if Van never being born Vida faction would still win anyway.

    As per example of garuthland and Zantark'side, members of vida races were habitating dangerous places, multiplying themselves and getting stronger.

    Pharmaun got back to Zantark, if Ricklent never had that foresight about Van then he and Zuruwarn would have made a new plan. Not to mention that several hundreds of Majins would have S class strenght, and likely dozens of them are at mythcal level of strenght of rank 14,15 or 16 +several job changes.

    According to Peria, a new war would eventually happen and Vida side would win.

    Like i mentioned before at least have zuruwarn back to sleep for another dozens milenias and awake full recovered, reunite with Zantark in Dark continent and open a new gate in a world not owned by Rodcorte and bring in some new champions.

    Zuruwarn, Ricklent and Zantark can begin new plan to attack Alda. They can train not only they vida races believers in Dark continent, but they champions too until they are able to use god descent, send them to ban gaia to contact those whitin the southern region, organize stuff and like Van go to Orbaum disguising their info and background, become famous, reveal they got some of great gods DP all while agreeing with vida races existence as people and conquering public opinion and space, wage war against Amid while doing all kinds of things until they reveal most of themselves (if not everything) and keep actively attacking Alda, hunting evil gods follows and whatlike + promoting their gods presence and even building their own country... Well there are many possibilities, but it is roughly lile that.

    Even if they can't free Botin due to Van not existing, I can still imagine Peria "Ressurecting" in the middle of this war just to do the same: cause shock and chaos within Alda forces and go to her comrades, brothers, Zuru, Rick, Zantark and cia. Giving her DP and futher strenginning vida side.

    I can only see them winning. Except that with van there will be nearly none casuality whitin their side.
     
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    I would say more like politics or the reaction of the different rasas to the death of vandalu, conflict between the faction, for example, those who want to destroy the alda crellentes, whether they are women or children for revenge, and those who believe that this would be too much.

    Those who claim the superiority of vandalu over the other gods may appear to form a third faction.

    as the friends of vandalu would see his death.

    What would happen to eins if I managed to kill vandalu? and even if he succeeded, he would not go unpunished and maybe Darcia or someone else would kill him, but his reaction interests me more
     
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    Alda doesn't have the capacity to kill Van. Van is the God of Origin too you know and Alda can not kill a God of another world. The best thing Alda can hope for is sealing Lambda Van's body, but that is on a limited timer of functionality. Once Van finally works out the kinks of making true multiple bodies, even sealing him will become completely impossible.

    Given how much has been spent hyping that moment up though, I'm expecting something like this to happen. Alda to seal Van just for another Van to appear and then knowing Van, more Vans would appear.
     
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    I just noticed that the webnovel has been running for half a decade now, the first two chapters were posted on June 30th of 2015. Geez, Densuke really is doing great. :aww:Kudos to him:blobsalute:
     
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    raw up
     
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    So it was Bacchus that Mari was making a body for. Is this a subtle yuri development or Bacchus wanting to join Van’s harem?

    Van officially establishing embassies with the Orbaume duchies in Vidal. That’s a big development.

    On another note, apparently the Alda harmony faction has been experiencing a rapid death since Heinz’ defection to Amid. As expected and well deserved.
     
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    Who is that again?
     
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    Goddess of Rain Clouds that defected from Alda’s side back during the Alchem duchy arc. She’s the god that chose Arthur as her hero.
     
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    Oh poor Vandeliu, why will women chase you so much,
    will your normal supernatural charm be? no
    would it be for the literal magic charm? no
    would it be for the wealth and unlimited power? no
    is it because you are an honest and hard-working man? no,
    is it because you are good looking and in good shape? no
    is it because you treat them with respect and always praise their virtues? no
    is it because you are very reliable and you give him the freedom to grow by themselves? No
    it is because although you are not romantic, you are a retailer that will always make you happy in good times and bad? no
    is it because you are a lover of cleaning, cooking and children? no
    could it be because of the pleasure-giving abilities like internal massages, aphrodisiac blood, infinite language and shape change? no

    Seriously, I doubt this is going to be the last misunderstanding, the only way Vandeliu stops attracting women is to become someone unpleasant and doing things that displease his allies is usually against his nature, except if these things They involve work or jokes.

    and as Vandeliu is still attentive to the appearance of bones of ganpubrio,What would happen if you mixed Vandeliu with the mutant meat of bachan and the origin of all animals?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Ch 378: "The Dukes who Proved Their Loyalties, and Graduating from Fundamentalism" (edit: whoops, it was a fumi-e joke. :notlikeblob:)

    Just like she mentioned she was thinking of doing, Mari's off making a second body with [Metamorph] now (she's about 2/3rds of the way done). Unfortunately there's a lot of pieces of the body you have to reproduce, it's physically taxing, and you have to eat twice as much to sustain a second body, which gives you indigestion and whatnot. So she doesn't think she's going to be doing this again for a while. :blobdead:

    As for who she was making a body for? It's Bashas, Goddess of Rain Clouds, patron deity of the hero Arthur of the Heart Warriors! You may remember back in the last arc, when the various Vida faction gods were freaking out about getting stronger ties to Van and Vidal, that Bashas was mentioned to be trying to get a mortal vessel so she could just become one of Van's suitors herself. Welp, here we go. Now she's a half formed body sticking out of Mari's back. :blobfearful: Also though she's apparently got beautiful features, she's got pale skin, and long wavy hair just stretched out all over the place... and she talks in like whispers, and sounds all gloomy... so yeah, basically a Japanese horror movie ghost. :blobastonished:

    Also a lot of amazing details on Bashas mortal life in here: Bashas was a weatherman. That's how she became a god, she predicted the weather and that got her venerated enough to become a god after she died. Bashas had almost no friends. :blobsob: So she was very touched by Mari's comment that they would be sisters who came from the same flesh and blood. So please Mari, forget the goddess stuff, just call her Bashas. :blobcatblush: Also apparently this is the real reason Arthur became Bashas's hero: he is equally desperate to make friends with and be liked by the people around him. :sweating_profusely: Also very cute that Mari initially thinks maybe this was a somewhat questionable character for a goddess, but then after realizing how similar she is to Mei and Banda, the people who saved her, thinks it's actually probably a good thing. :blobmelt: And other good opinions in here from the other gods:

    Vida: "She gets lonely quite easily, but overall she's a good girl."
    Talos: "I think she's quite a fine woman!"
    Luvesfol: ...I don't really know her? :sweating_profusely:

    Van comes in here with another wagon full of food. Apparently Mari didn't tell him straight out in the last chapter because Bashas wanted it to be a surprise, but since the whole process ended up being more complicated than expected, they ended telling Van to get his help with the food an other things. Also Van was quite surprised to see Bashas's new body sticking out of Mari's back, so Bashas still kinda got what she wanted! ...Okay, actually Van was just surprised that Bashas and Mari were close, not that Bashas was sticking out of Mari's back, this is still Van we're talking about. Body horror is one of his primary powers. :blobjoy: intersting discussion in here if what Mari's doing counts as worshiping Bashas. The order's all messed up for one thing. Bashas asked for Mari's help and granted Mari her divine protection in advance for it. And also regular worship tends to be praying in a temple and stuff. Not growing a goddess out of your back. :blobsweat_2: Van though ultimately thinks that unlike Origin and Earth, worship on Lambda is much more transactional (people worship gods to get blessings, knowledge and/or power from them), so what Mari is doing isn't really that different. Van also doesn't see anything wrong with believing in a god for "selfish" reasons like wanting to improve your own lot in life, since fundamentally he believes there's nothing more important than finding happiness for yourself and your loved ones. Anyway, before leaving, Van makes some clothes for Bashas (whose body Mari has just about finished) with his demon king silk glands and magic thead spinning technique... and then makes it clear, just to be sure, this is just a gift. This is not a proposal or anything like that! Van's getting very paranoid after the whole thing with Deanna thinking her transformation trinket was some form of a wedding dress / engagement ring. :sweating_profusely: Unfortunately Bashas fixates on the proposal part and starts blushing and giggling about it... at which point Mari tells Bashas her feet are done so she doesn't have to cling to her while creepily laughing like that... and then Van that he brought this on himself. Van thinks he probably did too. :blobexpressionless:
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    Meanwhile, over in Orbaume: Despite being ground zero for the revival of Demon King Guduranis, something that normally would have led to the Orbaume capital being abandoned for an all new city (would they change the name of the city then? Or the country? :hmm:)... now it seems the capital is even more prosperous. The slums are completely rebuilt. Zakkart street has made them a major commercial center even! Meanwhile Vida races, and even undead and those who got revived as demons after getting killed by Rikudou's dungeon overflow, are all intermixing happily with the human population. Which is a price most commoners, especially those from the slums, are all too happy to pay for a nice apartment, plentiful opportunities, and even their family brought back to them after dying... but presents something of a problem to King Corbit and the dukes. :sweating_profusely:

    Vandalieu rebuilt large parts of the capital in a day... now he moved an entire mountain range... Merolis, could you please explain to Van the idea of letting countries you have diplomatic relations with in advance before you do something like move a mountain range to the border of one of their member states? :notlikeblob: Yes, Merolis, basically due to her own sense of pride, resigned as principal of the adventurer school and decided to offer her A-class adventurer skills to Van for the time being in return for him graduating early. Unfortunately for her, Vidal has plenty of A-class level fighters, and as the head of the adventurer school in the capital she has quite a lot of experience with politics within Orbaume... so now she is basically playing ambassador / political science teacher to Van.:blobsob: She will not accept being called sensei though Van. You are not her student anymore. You're not! :blobupset:

    Also at this meeting are Schneider and Randolf, who, hilariously, HATE EACH OTHER'S GUTS. The various dukes and other officials at the meeting are just staying far, far away and trying to pretend they don't exist, as Schneider in particular has a history of killing anyone who pisses him off, including major nobles. :sweating_profusely: Apparently the two of them have been indirectly competing on various missions involving the former Mirg-Sauron border over the years, like escorting asylum seekers or rescuing prisoners of war... and thus both feel like the other has screwed them over on more than one occasion. :blobangery: In the end, Van, who doesn't seem to notice these two hate each other so much it's literally distorting the very space between them, says "look, I know you two are well acquainted and all, but the meeting is about to start, so please try to keep it down a little." :blobjoy: Guess Van figures this is just some sort of professional rivalry. Merolis and Lisanna step in here to tell their respective boyfriends to tamp it down as well. Merolis with a "if you treat him like a kid, you're going to seem just as childish. I am working here, so don't make more trouble for me." and Lisanna with a "If you really think you're so old, at least try to act your age." :blobsmilehappyeyes:

    Anyway, to the main problem: Orbaume wants to enter into stronger diplomatic ties with Vidal, not just limited to Vidal's relationship with some of their dukes. Quite a lot of the dukes are envious of Elizabeth at this point. Not only is Sauron no longer on the front lines with Amid, they're now the connection between Orbaume as a whole and the Vidal Empire. They're even doing joint development of tourist cities and temples by the new Ark mountain range. Van says he'll be happy to set up embassies in the other dukes' territories... if they meet one condition: Should Amid and/or Fazon declare war on Vidal, they will ally with Vidal. Knochen distributes treaties for the various dukes to bring back to their territory to discuss as they please. If they agree, they can sign it and their diplomatic relations with Vidal will be strengthened just like they want. Sauron, Alchem, Jahan and Birgit (large beast person population duchy) however don't feel the need to bother with any of that. They all sign right then and there. This also makes it clear that they have all already been having talks with Vidal on their own (well, all except Brigit, but they gain clear benefits from allying with a multi-ethnic state like Vidal compared to the human majority Orbaume, so it's not surprising) This also causes Corbit and Hartner to quickly sign their own treaties as well, as thanks to King Corbit and Katie Hartner respectively they are now exceptionally aware they don't want to go against Vidal in any way, shape or form. :blobfearful:

    Finally, Van announces that the "Vida Fundamentalism" sect will be changing their name to just "The Vida Faith". This is more or less in response to "Alda Harmony" becoming "The Alda Faith" in Amid due to its adoption by Alda. Literally nothing else will change. This is just to stick it to Heinz.:blobwhistle: You're the main sect of your religion Heinz? Then we're the main sect of our religion too! If you have any questions, please direct them to Vida, who is standing here right behind me. (Darcia waves :blobpeek:)

    Also some notes on Bone Man, who still apparently looks like a normal skeleton, despite having bones harder than Orichalcum. :blobsleepless: Since he's more resistant to light magic and whatnot, this more or less suggests he's a demigod. :blobcat_hyper: But is it a demi-god undead? Or an undead demi-god. :hmm: Luciano will be interested to compare Bone Man to other such high ranked undead in the future.

    Next chapter's on July 7th.
     
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    And so, another legend in the Vandalieu Cycle is born: the legend of Saint Mari, the young maiden who sacrifised half her body to encarnate the Goddess Bashas out of friendship after hearing her plea to reunite with her beloved Vandalieu, the Dark God of Death and Chaos. Even hundred of years later it is custom for friend to help each other show their feelings for their significant other and for their lovers to gift them a piece of clothing in remembrance of that auspicious day.....

    Also, Van? Omega Good Job with that tsundere line blobmelt_thumbs.

    Somehow it feels as if you are treating Van like a really anoying fungus. I mean, you are not wrong, but still!:blobexpressionless:
     
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    Can Van be hurt by Alda's spikes(?) ? Or it will just burn some of his mana and hurts Alda back? If so Alda has really no advantages against Van...
     
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    NekoMK2 Lazy cat, [self proclaimed GM_Rusaku Disciples]

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    As far i remember Alda stick can only work to god/goddess of Lambda world only since he is the "law" in that world, as for current van he is demi god so possility that stick work quite high, but the god van in origin is different story since that van is god of other world not lambda
    As for why that stick affect rod, rod already considered lambda god because van and his citizen
     
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