Why are permabans not permanent?

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  1. saffu

    saffu dead

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    This has been bothering me since I found out @Zaart was maskedcerf. Why are people who have been permabanned for repeatedly breaking the rules given a second chance to 'grace' NUF with their god-awful posts? There's already a warning point system for this sort of shit.

    It's not like they've only done one really awful thing to be permabanned; Dragon God and maskedcerf were repeat offenders. There is no good reason to unban these people that I can see. Am I missing something?
     
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    Sordahon 『One Person Virtue Is Another One Sin』

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    Connections?
     
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    Dupe2718 Dragon God

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    What was I a repeat offender of?
     
  4. saffu

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    iunno, being a turd? i'm not the one who banned you.
     
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    Dupe2718 Dragon God

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    Then how do you know I'm a repeat offender?
     
  6. saffu

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    because thats the only way to get banned in the first place, you silly dong.
     
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    Blitz ⛈️ awakened from the reverie❄️

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    This ain't a serious forum and most people are chill and the mods are pretty forgiving .There's also an ip ban but I don't think the mods usually do that
     
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    SenjiQ [Wise, for a Bird]

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    Blackmailing a mod
     
  9. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    Bans are given out at staff's discretion, if they feel like a person doesn't deserve a second chance, they IP ban the person as well, and ban any clones they get to know of.

    If the person just went a bit overboard, they lose access to their old account as punishment, but are still allowed to post with a new one.

    It's a way of giving a heavy warning without giving a permanent ban.
     
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    HavekZero A well meaning, contributing member of this forum

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    by now im mostly of the thought process that the mods enjoy banning us again and again, its no fun if we're IP banned so they stick to normal bans...

    i blame oly, that guy and westy let modhood get to their heads :(
     
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    Dupe2718 Dragon God

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    Were they cool before modhood?

    Repeat offence is not the only way to get permabanned though.

    Mods can ban after only one offence if they felt it was serious — at their own discretion.

    What if my case was an exception — or the case above?
     
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  12. saffu

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    Then I would like to pay the mod who did the deed a handsome sum of money.
     
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    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    19637.png law is dead while member is living~ who are you to judge someone not deserve second chance?
    pretty simple~ if make serious offense just ban it again~
    you can also try bribe a mod or goes meek and say unban me unban me unban me~ reason is important~
     
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    SoulZer0 Heaven Refining

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    Eh, ban an account then just create a new one. You need IP ban to keep someone from coming back. Of course, change the IP and then make a new account option exists. There's no real way to keep someone away from the site, unless country ban it. Even so, VPN still works. So yeah.
     
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    Zaart Deer Master Race

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    Well how kind of you.
    If you cannot figure it yourself it seem i will have to grace you with the answer
    You see even if we did things that go against the rule, a mod might ban you for something and another might not.
    Me i was perma-banned because my humour is quite dark and i sometime do not get why people do not laugh at something that i find funny.
    When i understood what happened i talked to the mod to say sorry and did not ask for my ban to be removed, he told me he would give me a second chance if i did not do it again.
    And as everyone can see compared to before, i troll a lot less (i could even say i do not do it anymore)
    So people like me who can learn can get a second chance, others cannot because they would just do it again
     
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    Dupe2718 Dragon God

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    Eh.

    I once trolled a forum I got banned from by going back using different emails and Tor.

    Eventually my self respect made me leave it...

    It's not impossible to keep someone away though, and if the person is hated, much easier.
     
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    Yeah, no.

    You and Dragon God being allowed to start over sets a precedent for others to observe. When someone sees shit like this happen, they'll feel like a permaban doesn't mean much, and that they can post dumb shit however much they want, to the point where they are permabanned.

    Then, they'll think that they can just waltz back and make a new account, so long as they are 'reformed'. Do you see the problem here? Letting a user know that you can appeal a permaban just by saying you're sorry lightens the punishment in the eyes of the public. Even if they do reform themselves, they've still posted a bunch of dumb shit on the forum that would never have been posted if PEOPLE JUST WEREN'T ALLOWED TO MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT AFTER BEING PERMABANNED.
     
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    Dupe2718 Dragon God

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    Well, @Tony is best equipped to answer you.

    Though I'd like to say, that the thing about appeals is that they're not always granted.
     
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    Raneday Not Rane

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  20. Zaart

    Zaart Deer Master Race

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    wow someone is on that day of the month, you should calm down and speak like an adult without caps lock.
    well it depend, you see i was quite the old member so my internet persona was well know, thats why they didn't mind that much, i was active in the community and had fun with a lot of people, sometime i was a bit overboard, but not enough to get hated as a result by the other members, i am harmless.
    so when i did go too far, the mod gave me a "strong" warning to set me straight, i do not know about others but it worked for me.
    NUF is not a company, its a mostly friendly community, those who are truly annoying and bothersome are thrown out while those who just need a warning are warned.
    what you say would be like not seeing the difference between murder of first and second degree.
    but well no one can get angry with you over that because it do require a bit of learning.
    but the problem look mostly to be about the fact that its called permaban, if you want we can call it account locking so you will be happy.
     
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