QI contract

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  1. abc123

    abc123 Active Member

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    This is clearly a smurf account. Here's the QI contract their TLs have to sign, so for all you fucktards out there, stop sending translators threats. If any of you are wondering why I have this, I was part of the initial carpet bombing and damn near went over to QI but backed out at the last moment due to personal reasons like school and advice from friends like Ren, Lickymee and more. Qidian's probably changed it a bit since what I have is an early copy, the original draft. But, their intent is clearly demonstrated here.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tuu-YyA7eIgMygvGDcEFGDOwHV4Aq1Tc_pnIbmD-3KI/edit?usp=sharing
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/179-yhsQYyzkwDaysGEJ2fb1qEiqWK0s3r1rfjmbPT4k/edit?usp=sharing
    This is an chinese, but key clauses(that have been TLed to English not by qidian) that royally fuck over TLs are as follows:

    In light of: [The translator], prior to acquiring authorization from [Qidian], translated [Qidian's] novels without permission, violating [Qidian]'s intellectual property rights and causing [Qidian] to suffer certain losses. [Qidian] has agreed to settle this [privately] on XXXXX date. Both sides have now come to friendly terms and have agreed to abide by the below reonciliation/settlement terms

    10.5 Non-disparagement. To the extent permitted by law, Translator will not disparage China Reading (including about China Reading products and services, officers, directors, and employees), including not to make any negative statements, reviews, comments, or feedback, whether written or oral, about China Reading, in any manner and forms, including all written or electronic communication (e.g., email, text message, use of Facebook, Twitter, WordPress, WeChat, Weibo, LinkedIn, etc.).

    (b) Sections 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.4(b), and 10 will survive expiration or termination of this Agreement.(I.e. TLs and EDs can never under any circumstances say anything bad about qidian, ever.)

    IN NO EVENT SHALL CHINA READING BE LIABLE TO TRANSLATOR FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, INCLUDING LOSS OF REVENUES AND LOSS OF PROFITS, HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT, EVEN IF CHINA READING HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

    3.2 No Reversion of Rights. China Reading’s intellectual property rights, including in and to the Translated Works, will be indefeasible and not subject to reversion under any circumstances. The sole remedy for any breach of this Agreement by China Reading will be an action to recover monetary damages and Translator will have no right to seek or obtain an injunction under any circumstances to prevent the publication, display, marketing, production, reproduction, or distribution of any Translated Works or any derivative work thereof.
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    It isn't the short end of the stick. Translators don't get to touch the stick unless qidian beats them with it.

    On that note, here is the English contract that qidian themselves translated that I got from sources who shall not be named. Thank you for shooting yourself in the foot, next time please shoot your head instead.

    Editor contract: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5wD-eSs7N2-RVcwcVNXMXMyZUU/view?usp=sharing
    TL contract: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5wD-eSs7N2-MzhpQm5YcGJZWUE/view?usp=sharing
     
  2. Dusk

    Dusk Monochrome

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    The truth has finally been revealed.
     
  3. Archaic pickle

    Archaic pickle Daoist Heavenly Kimichi

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  4. VixenKiss

    VixenKiss Machiavelli the Princess

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    It just gets worse and worse each day...
     
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  5. pepeoo

    pepeoo high lord of the seven seas

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    +1 fucking ppl need to see this fuck those @Qidian asshats so this was y u wouldnt show the contract when i asked for it. Not very fucking far from a slave contract is it?
     
  6. PrinceAeron

    PrinceAeron [Panda°Who°Saves°The°World°From°Cookies°Demon]

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    No more novel to read... We still got newspaper. Fuck yeah.
     
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    kkchaitu Well-Known Member

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    Holy shite!! No wonder there is no one (including people who signed up with Qidian) talking about this. This is almost like putting all the power in Qidian's hands and no way out for translators and editors.
     
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  8. Mousa4

    Mousa4 Cultivated to Immortality

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    Holy this exploded even worse than Yen Press did. *grabs popcorn*
     
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    Yggdrasil108 Well-Known Member

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    @rwxwuxiaworld are you allowed to state if this is the real deal or not?
     
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    Elawn 『Binge Reader』

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  12. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    oh this will good evidence on court~
     
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    wait does this mean they own the translated works if you start translating for Qidian? I just skimmed through it and that is what stuck out to me.
     
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    it's nda I think
     
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    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    nda so I dout he can give sure answer maybe his answer is:)
     
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    TheOnlyRavenbrand Death Knight - WW Supporter

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    Prior translators who translated qidian works then signed this contract can't say or do much of anything.
     
  17. Liron

    Liron Well-Known (Failed) Prophet

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    Holy crap. Holy crap. Holy crap. I have a feeling that so much of it is illegal... Damn, if a single hired translator makes a move on them in court and win, we will see a mass disband of their site.
     
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    #whereareallthetoiletsinthemnovels
     
  19. Temairine

    Temairine Well-Known Member

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    Is that even enforceable? I remember Uber had to remove some similar contract clauses due to that?


    EDIT: contracts can be unenforceable due to undue influence - which includes using excessive pressure - like they have now. Or due to unconscionability which basically means it cannot be too unfair.
     
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  20. Kuro no Maou

    Kuro no Maou BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY

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