Ideal Length

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  1. Unknown Origin

    Unknown Origin Member

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    Greetings, everyone.

    I decided to make this thread after I read some manga and novel. I want to ask everyone's opinion.
    1. Roughly how long should novel, manga, or anime be?
    2. What decides the popularity if we compare novel, manga, or anime to each other?

    For example:
    1. Kochikame (200 volume), the popularity is still below One Piece (80+ volume and counting).
    2. One Piece, Dragon Ball (until before Super), Detective Conan. The animes are faithful to manga until the end (filler are excluded) ==> some say they are at legend level.
    3. Novel:
    a. I Shall Seal The Heavens (one of top novel ==> 1617 chapters)
    b. Bringing The Farm (6500+ and counting) ==> rating not really good.
    c. EER (recently concluded at ch 352) ==> one of Top Korean novel (at least on NU).
    4. GTO (prime example of almost all-aspect success: manga, anime, dorama, anime-movie, dorama-movie, spin off).

    After we compare this, we find out the the length don't always reflect popularity and favorability.
     
  2. Blitz

    Blitz ⛈️ awakened from the reverie❄️

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    As long as its interesting and doesn't drag the plot with fillers, reuse same plot its all good. Heck it can go for 2000+ chaps and I'd still read. Also some novels are catered to more niche audiences so popularity varies.
     
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    Archaic pickle Daoist Heavenly Kimichi

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    I'd say around 200-300 chapters of 3-5k words each.

    But thx for the misleading title I thought we were gonna break out the rulers and be real men
     
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    It's not about the size, but how you use it :blobReach:
     
  5. UselessWastrel

    UselessWastrel Procrastinating Suicidal

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    Shounen 500+
    HS Romance -200
    Anything else 125+

    CN 1k+
    KR -250
    JP 150+

    Ps.
    We can talk about benises all you want, but that's pretty gay
     
  6. b1w2c3

    b1w2c3 Well-Known Member

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    This comes down to the long debate of quality vs quantity. IMO quality is better because if there is too much the story loses it grip and readers lose interest. Anime tend to have a standard these days going form 12-13 to 24-26. Some authors dont know when to end story on the other hand
     
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    Mr Pancakes Well-Known Pancake

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    I like them to be at least 300+ chapters long, but size doesn't really matter.
     
  8. Alexios Blake

    Alexios Blake Well-Known Member

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    Many works were written in a way were the could be finished easily while others were written with a long story in view. And sometimes works, especially mangas, are forced to continue because of their popularity even though they are at a good point to end the story.
     
  9. ultrafunfun

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    Good Novel:
    1.NO fillers,or just the right fillers to remember you what's important.
    2.It needs to be interesting..would you read an interesting essay about about cats,or a boring essay,20times longer,about why drugs are addictive?you can see which one is more important but you still won't make the right decision,and because of that don't expect someone to chose btw an interesting thing at 6000+chapter which gets really boring after some time and a reallyy good one at just 1000+chapters(Bring the farm vs. ISSTH)
    anyway,if it's boring,it doesn't have a good rating..
     
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    An ideal length is hard to say.
    It depends on what kind of novel it is and how long that chapters are.
    a novel about cute and fluffy feel usually are way shorter than action ones.

    you want the characters to be fleshed out and there to be an actually plot. however it can't feel too rushed or drag on forever.
    Ideally everything written somehow makes the story more captivating. Having characters die or disappear after a few chapters is pointless if it doesn't make the readers feel anything.
    The novels should also tie up most loose ends. If not people (me especially) get pissed that they wasted their time reading.
     
  11. MangoGuy

    MangoGuy Rambling Mango

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    NO NOVEL SHOULD BE OVER 2.5K CHAPTERS. No matter how long each chapter is. For manga, ideally, no manga should have over 1k releases. however, in both cases, if you are a writer with the goods..it just doen't matter.
     
  12. Exterial

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    As long as the author is capable of doing without reducing the quality.
     
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    abdera7man Well-Known Member

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    That title is....... misleading!!!
     
  14. checkman123

    checkman123 [Nez] [The Bystander][RAWR FEAR ME]

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    lmao I was thinking the same thing. Sad :/
     
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    7 inches is the magical number that has everyone screaming
     
  16. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    ideally?
    no plot hole left with arguably satisfying ending before author goes cross yellow river~
    why I say so? I believe hiatusxhiatus is good one~ my concern is will da author alive to finish it?
    ravages of times still on going and it story about 3 kingdoms era which hinted story goes to Jin Dynasty and heck even 3 kingdoms not formed yet~ it been 2 decades if I remember it correctly~
     
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    It grows on you... oh wait.
     
  18. otaku31

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    As long as the quality doesn't deteriorate, the fight scenes don't drag out, and the novel isn't stuffed with fillers. Most Korean novels feel a bit rushed, they should have at least 300 chapters. CNs - 1000-1200; anything above that I don't have the patience to read. Don't like most mainstream mangas like One Piece, Bleach or Naruto- they feel too stretched out. So, a limit of something like 300-400 for mangas, I guess.
     
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    7 inches is quite the thick book almost bible thick *almost* :blobowoevil_horns::blobowoevil_horns:
     
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    fuzor100 Standby mode...

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    I don't know about ideal, but I just wish those manga finish already. (One piece & Conan)