Net neutruality final jugement from US Senate

Discussion in 'Tech Discussion' started by sealteam14, Dec 13, 2017.

  1. KingOfMangonia

    KingOfMangonia [The Progenitor] [The Mango] [Logic]

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    the vote has not happened yet... it happens on december 14th at 10:30 am eastern time... its currently 4:25 PM eastern time on december 13th... stop acting like its a done deal already
     
  2. Jeebus

    Jeebus Well-Known Member

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    Pai and the other two Republican commissioners on the five-member commission have already pledged to vote for it. Only a miracle, like Congress holding an emergency session and replacing one of the "Yea" voters, could stop this from passing. Short of something like that, this is a done deal.
     
  3. sealteam14

    sealteam14 Your friendly HI3 SEA monkey farmer

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    Guys, as i mention above, that's my current timeline. AND, i need updates of this peice of Highly Important news ASAP.
    US haven't reach Dec 14th, i know. What i ask is keep me updates with the news.
     
  4. sealteam14

    sealteam14 Your friendly HI3 SEA monkey farmer

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    That's what i ask you guys for.
     
  5. SoulZer0

    SoulZer0 Heaven Refining

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    Those who think they're safe just because they don't live in US are too naive. They can't even simply think the easiest thing. You have no guarantee that their country won't adopt the same thing. I mean, if what Ajit trying to do is beneficial to the ISP, then some country would follow, especially for the countries where the governments own the ISP.
     
  6. Jarrow

    Jarrow Well-Known Member

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    @MostlyBlue @Naraku @Nyamsus @Tiber Winter
    Actualy, it does effect you; the 6 major tier1 backbone providers are ringed by the same selfish American companies that control traffic, even without peering agreements. The goal of the legislation is to (1) increase the data collected (a supported part of global anti-piracy goals), and (2) monopolize the market by preferential / discriminatory network treatment.
    Oh, you live in Canada, well, you (or your ISP will pay, and pass it on to you as higher bills) need to pay a surcharge to access
    American entertainment.
    Oh, you have a history of visiting piracy-supporting sites like BakaUpdates or NovelUpdates? Your social or political affiliations are not what others want? You are a social media 'influencer' who's opinions are 'inconvenient' to SomeoneImportant? Your access to other networks may suddenly 'have issues' (unless you pay).
    Oh, you manage a site with high bandwidth costs that competes with some random service owned by Google, Version, ATT, or [OtherMegaCorp]? Wow, your traffic speed sucks all of a sudden, your uses get disconnected all the time and everybody complains (unless you PAY).
    Oh, you run a site like NovelUpdates? NO INTERNET FOR YOU.

    This is the low hanging fruit - I won't even guess what horrors can be expected once MegaCorps have a year-long dossier on each persons daily life and feed that into a DeepThinker team, asking 'how can we manipulate these idiots?' or 'how can we control these little serfs so we're the richest most powerful people forever?'

    Yeah. It won't happen tomorrow, but Trumpism isn't something that happened in a day either, and look how insanely f@cked up America has become in only 1 year. Fer Christ's sake, we have 49% of a state voting for a known pedophile that the President loves . . . .

    </retch>

    Edit: I'm sure it's just coincidence that WuxiaWorld went 503 right when I was typing this . . .
     
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  7. chencking

    chencking [Daolord Grammar Nazi]

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    To most of America, it does feel like Trumpism happened in a day, although the damage is slow. But ignoring politics cuz no politics on NUF...Verizon* users* and use " not '. Also, try Some Important Bigshot, not SomeoneImportant
     
  8. chencking

    chencking [Daolord Grammar Nazi]

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    lol so uninformed. China is what people point to when they say look what might happen without net neutrality
     
  9. Read1212

    Read1212 Well-Known Member

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    Comcast already throttles my VPN I think so don't think it affects me. What can they do? Throttle me more? If so, I'll just get rid of my ISP. I don't trust Comcast to not be behind a VPN.
     
  10. Yukkuri Oniisan

    Yukkuri Oniisan 『Procrastinator Archwizard Translator and Writer』

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    Indonesia never had neutral internet. Government block sites, ISPs throttle websites, net traffic being watched by the government, slow internet speed?...... These are old news.
    So, this new American legislation will hardly affects me... Unless they make the server speed of the website that I visit slower than 12 Kbps, I wouldn't care. Yes, my internet speed is usually ONLY 40-50 Kbps. The highest is 1 Mbps. In 2AM. In 4G. Imagine.

    If I don't satisfied with my current ISP, I got 3 potential ISP rival to choose from.
    After all, unlike US, there are no ISP regional monopoly in here... (unless in some remote island or inland areas)
    I got 3, Indosat, Telkomsel, XL, and Telkom services here... Not to say smaller ISP corporations.
    So yeah... They dare to throttle my favourite website? I'll switch to other ISP.
    It's True Capitalism at work, people. Not sham ones like in the US (cable-internet monopoly with few competitors).
    We got very intense competition between ISP in wooing consumers and the internet speed is gradually speeding up, also fiber networks and public wifis is expanding like no one business (even small towns had several public wifis). So yeah,,,,,,
     
  11. AliceShiki

    AliceShiki 『Ms. Tree』『Magical Girl of Love and Justice』

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    It doesn't matter.

    Sites will get slower? I'll browse slowly.

    Net will go down all the time? I'll wait until it gets back up.

    A site will get blocked? I'll just switch to a provider that allows that site.

    Internet will become more expensive? There is a limit to how much they can raise before people decide to just rely on some other source (like, phone internet instead of home wi-fi). Even if the price tripled, I still wouldn't care, I would just switch to a smaller data plan.


    People make a huge fuss out of nothing, those companies want to gain money, so they need to make the customers happy unless they have a monopoly. If they have a monopoly, you just deal with it and adapt, if they don't have, you won't have a problem anyway.

    I can browse NUF at 64 kbps, I doubt any company will make my internet slower than that, and if I can browse NUF, then my internet speed doesn't matter.



    Most of the complaints are gross exaggerations from people that didn't do a minimum of research and are afraid the world will end. Not even half of the things I mentioned on this post will probably come true.

    And no, nobody outside of the US should care about this, they won't be impacted in the slightest.
     
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  12. TheNewGuy

    TheNewGuy Well-Known Member

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    when your tech minister say
    "Fast internet ? For what?"
    While his friend caught watching porn while doing discussing important mater in senate...