Qidian's Paywall

Lesser chapters with the option to read in advance by unlocking chapters. Locked chapters becomes free eventually based on free release rate.

 

You could always pirate, and pirate sites are commonly better for the reader than the translator's site.

Deciding to do so is on your conscience and on nothing else... If you don't care... Well, that's that.

You can just create an account? It doesn't take long.

And yes, free chapters will still be released, just a bit slower than before.

 

It is bad for them, It alienates part of their readership, and will push more towards piracy.

It's bad for TL/editors as it encourages overworking.

It's bad for for all readers, because it pushes for faster releases, lowering quality.

And for these people, they can get the releases for free anyways, only it's still bad for them because the release quality will be lower.

You're, kinda missing the point here.

 

I've read the whole thread and old hatred seems to be lesser. Most of them just make one or two post and eventually disappear from the thread.

 

People that pirate would pirate with any system that got in their way, nobody cares about people that pirate because they wouldn't pay anyway.

TL/editors have all encouragement they needed for overworking, they were paid per chapter.
This doesn't change that, they won't work more because they can earn extras from users spending, they are already working as much as they can because this is their full-time job.

See above for why it doesn't lower quality.

See above regarding quality.

You're the one that thinks that because someone will earn some extra for working more, when they already earned proportionally to how much they worked, would start pumping more chapters and reducing the quality.

This isn't a job in which they earn a fixed amount per month, they earn per chapter.

If you earn 10$ per chapter and needs 30$/day to live, you'll translate 3 chapters per day.

If you earn 15$ per chapter, you won't start translating 4 chapters per day, if anythinf, you'll reduce your rate to 2 chapters per day, though this is unlikely because extra money is always welcome.

This system doesn't reduce quality in the slightest, people will work as much as they can, not more.

There are always some people that have the time to spread the hate... >.>

 

So we're (leechers) getting lesser chapters and if we want more we need to get premium?
Still not full paywall so it's ok. ( But did the quality drop? )

 

Nope, the quality is still the same.

And yes, essentially what you said, though you can just pay with daily spirit stones.

 

Quite wrong. While there are certainly many that will do so regardless, a large portion will only do so if it's more convenient than the legitimate options. A smaller, but still significant group will only do so when they feel the other options are unreasonable.

Entire businesses revolve around catering to those groups, and do so quite successfully(see gog.com)

Regardless, service quality is the best defense, and the core to deriving revenue from those groups. Alienating them is not beneficial.

It won't increase by a large amount, but some will do so.

If doing 20 chapters in one week earns the more than doing 20 in two weeks, people will try to do 40 in two rather than 30.

it's naive to think that this won't encourage some to increase their release rate. And given that they are paid per chapter already, this means they are likely already doing as many as they think they can, and that will mean a reduction in quality as they look for corners to cut.

Two things, one, that's not the point that quote is even talking about, and two, er I think you're missing another point. I'll expand below.

This isn't how an incentive for extra chapter works.

The bonus isn't to all released chapters, but to chapters released beyond the set target.

IE they have a quota of 3 chapters to reach, for which they get $10 a chapter, but if they exceed that, they'll get a bonus on the extra chapters.

So 4 chapters would net them $45 instead of $40.

They can't reduce two 2 chapters, they'll only earn $20 that way. They'll only get the extra if they do 4 or more.

Now they'll earn as much for 5 chapters as they would have for 6, but in order to accomplish this they have to increase their release rate by 66%.

If they were already doing as much as they felt they comfortably could already, then they'll look to find a way to accomplish it, and that means cutting corners.

Thus quality suffers.

No shit.

It's almost like they are losing something.

 

This still alive

 

The only thing you can do to stop pirates is hoping the people have some conscience, quality doesn't matter because the pirate will provide better quality anyway, they simply have more content to offer, so they can have very non-intrusive ads in a small amount and still earn a good amount.


Quality doesn't suffer if they increase their release ratio, their health suffers.

It's naive to think they can release faster without hurting their health. Quality will remain the same because they can't work faster just because they are earning more.

And I am earning nuffies with it~

 

I find this funny. Why, you ask?

Because your first interaction with me was this:

And the post that was quoted had this.

^ Your post basically became like this, discarding the initial argument about free readers having to wait for chapters.

 

Same.Gotta earn enough nuffies for that item thats coming

 

If you read more, and doesn't want to pay, you can just use the daily ones for the ones you like the most and wait for the rest.

 

They provide they exact same quality, it's an identical product. They also tend to have more intrusive ads.
You don't appeal to a pirate conscience, you provide a better service. QI is degrading the quality of their service, which will cost the users, and that will cost them revenue.

It's typically both.

Which is why I said it's bad for the TL/editor. Overwork is a real problem.

And they can work faster, it's called reducing the quality. Using more MTL, spending less time finding good translations for idiom or other things that don't directly translate. Editing to a lower standard.
Or even outright skipping sections of text.

And when you like, say 30 of them?
You do understand that's not a real solution right? The user is worse off than before, and is forced to pay or seek the content elsewhere to resume the previous level of service.

 

the translators technically translate faster, but they translate for premium ( like translate 5 chapters but 3 for premium and 2 for free, this way premium will get 5 chapters/weeks but free got 2 chapter/week I don't think they will release more for free even if premium get ahead for like 20 chapters )

 

... You never went to a pirate site, did you? They are usually the cleanest ones and most confortable to read by a large margin.

Just compare batoto to mangafox, it's easy to know which one is better for the reader.



If they overworked themselves to earn money, they would already be doing so. They earn per chapter.

Yes, the user needs to pay, it's how business works.

Ever heard of steam? You need to pay to buy games there.
Or... You can download a pirated game with some ease and that will give you the exact same product.
What stops you from doing that is nothing other than your conscience. Same thing with pirated novels.

 

This model restricts translators from freely setting the free chapters per week since every additional free chapter weekly means QI can milk lesser.

Yes, premium content will bloat if they produce more chapters than the free releases weekly.

Those premium chapters will still eventually free. Paying for them is completely optional.

 

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*pats*
*puffs report finger up proudly*

I'm doing a good job Arc-chan! \(^^)/