Question [CN] 苏仙夜奔

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  1. Astaroth

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    I'm reading daoist gu, but I'm getting a bit confused...

    There's this woman who is called 苏仙, 苏仙夜, or 苏仙夜奔. The endearment/familiar term that's also used is 苏仙儿.


    For some backstory, she's famous for eloping with a guy in the night (I think it was during the night, but tbh I don't really remember, she did 100% elope though.)


    What I'm not really sure is, what is her name actually? I'm inclining towards 苏仙 Su Xian, and 夜奔 being a title of sorts. "Su Xian, the Night Eloper" or some shit....

    Otherwise maybe it's just saying: Su Xian eloped/ing in the night, or Su Xianye eloped...

    I'm not really sure what to think, from reading the text I feel like it could be both option A and C at the same time, or well at different instances...

    As far as I know it's always 苏仙夜奔, except for the times when it's 苏仙儿.


    Some context:

    黑城冷笑: “那你赶紧去做啊。实话告诉你, 苏仙儿就是你们大雪山的棋子, 数十年前, 故意安排了一场局让我钻, 好刻意接近我, 打入黑家高层。所谓苏仙夜奔, 不过是一场阴谋。不久之后, 苏家就被灭门, 你以为是我黑家出的手?哼!是你们大雪山为了苏仙儿而收尾, 自己扫清了痕迹!”
     
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    Google translate said otherwise...
     
  3. suncust

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    I think i would be more inclined to keep her name as Su Xian with Su being her surname and Xian being her first name.

    The adding of the 儿 its as u mentioned simply a term of endearment of sorts.

    夜奔 could simply just mean eloping so you can probably treat it as Su Xian the eloper or the eloping Su Xian
     
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    What he said
     
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    苏仙夜奔 is an analog to 红拂夜奔. 儿 is omitted to fit the four-character rule (the titles of Chinese fables/myths are often four-character expressions with S-V or S-V-O structure , like 大禹治水/精卫填海/夸父追日/愚公移山/哪吒闹海 ... ).
     
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    So her full name actually include the 儿 at the end?

    And ok, so it was a title after all, but what does it mean? (For the record I don't really know chinese, I read MTL and use dictionary to help to understand.)

    This four-character rule will be good to remember for the future, so thanks for that.
     
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    Two meanings, night raid or a woman eloping in the night.
     
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