Webnovel.com has released Inkstone, an original content platform

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  1. UnGrave

    UnGrave ななひ~^^

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    How about "I signed it under duress"

    Edit: if you actually have to sign a contract under duress, make sure you right "Duress" by your signature. You can't just claim you did afterward.
     
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    Zomula Well-Known Member

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    From how I read it Wattpad owns the right to host your work and transfer on their site it if they wish, but you can delete the work or host it on another site without permission from wattpad because you still own the rights to it. QI's ToS give them ownership of the work in a way that even if you no longer want to post on their site they maintain the right to host your work. QI seems to have removed the part regarding not displaying, hosting, or performing removed works. Qi's also gives them permission to edit, copy, or use a work in any way they wish without the the authors permission.
     
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  3. arceus

    arceus The Invisible Reader

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    At the end of the day, it is all about whether you are clever enough to read the TOS and not get shit over or blindly trust QI( Seriously ROFLing at this point) and get screwed over in perpetuity. You do not have to keep repeating that. I think the people here are clever enough to get that point in your first comment. They are talking about some other aspects as well.
     
  4. oliver

    oliver Well-Known Member

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    Vi Coactus (V.C.) is a Latin term meaning "having been forced" or "having been compelled." In Latin, cōgō means "to compel," or "to force." The passive participle of cōgō is coāctus meaning "having been forced" or "having been compelled."[1] Vi Coactus or V.C. is used with a signature to indicate that the signer was under duress. The signer uses such marking at the end of one's signature to signal that the agreement was made under duress and it is their belief that it invalidates their signature. so qidian came to your house, gun to your head, demanding you to accept their tos?
     
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    Aurega Well-Known Member

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    If you sign a legally binding contract, you'll be held accountable for what you've signed. If you disagree, you shouldn't sign it in the first place. Ignorance won't help you here. At least in both EU and US. You'll have to prove that the terms are misleading or ambiguous or that the contract is impossible to read given the circumstances (such as providing 500 page contract and demanding a signature on the spot). Even then, the burden is on YOU to prove that you didn't agree with the contract due to certain circumstances.
     
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  6. Yukkuri Oniisan

    Yukkuri Oniisan 『Procrastinator Archwizard Translator and Writer』

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    There are still some legal jargon in the ToS
     
  7. readerz

    readerz Madam Jin

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    Don't forget Qidian ToS also says they can sub-license. As in, they can sell your work to other people without paying you. Forever.
     
  8. Aldnonymous

    Aldnonymous Male Member

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    BAM You fell for my trap. The argument is not "A is lazy to search the ToS".

    It's about "OBLIGATION", for everytime you are about to sign (In this case, upload your works or write something).
     
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    oliver Well-Known Member

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    ... i dont get what you're trying to say? my point is, if you publish on their site, it means you've said yes to the tos, even if you've not read it, so if you do it anyway, it's your own fault, and is legally binding.
     
  10. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    ypp lazy to rewrite

    since da beginning of Qidian International (QI), they do hint probability toward english original web novel and given how much experience they have from conducting such business it quite logical QI have original english section~ they even host original webnovel competition with "good prize"~ although there bad gossip surround da result~
    da main problem for QI is how to lure potential profit webnovelist cuz they mess up reputation on translation community~
    like it or not for international reader~ translation circle and webnovelist have quite relation~ and given how infamous current QI reputation don;t be surprise da detail for bad stuff will storming~ good enuf to scare potential webnovelist to post their work on QI~ of course there also exception toward who ignorant, not care, or desperate~
    well for QI, again this is not China~
    6.2Limited License Grant to Webnovel. By posting or publishing User Content, you grant Webnovel a worldwide, non-exclusive, perpetual, royalty-free, fully paid right and license (with the right to sublicense) to host, store, transfer, display, perform, reproduce, transmit, broadcast, modify for the purpose of formatting for display, and distribute your User Content, in whole or in part, in any media formats and through any media channels now known or hereafter developed.

    bring it on da law explanation!
    raccoon bread.jpg
     
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    Aurega Well-Known Member

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    Nah, QI doesn't take your rights away from you, they just get a non-exclusive perpetual royalty free licence they can use to publish in any medium without compensating you. So in essence, if you decide to publish your work later, QI can actually publish it themselves and compete against you. Wattpad at least states that they can only publish on their site.
     
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  12. Cosmic_

    Cosmic_ [Novel Addict] [Lazy Writer] [Meh Editor]

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    Couldn't really find anything that was really similar to the other ToS. There isn't much about what RRL can or is able to do such as distribution. More talk on what users can't do and how RRL don't have much obligation or responsibility to things for legal purposes. It does mention a bit on copyright, etc. Look at the terms for user comments is the closest I found. Though I didn't read it all, more skimmed ToS just now.
     
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    Just for an example here an example of a SITE that ACTUALLY LEGAL AND WORKS IN EVERY COUNTRY, see that part over there? For every file you upload or intellectual rights you give, they tell you your rights and whatamajigs.

    [​IMG]
     
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    rotweissewaffel Adept Lurker

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    Probably somewhere on the site it says " By uploading you agree to the ToS" or something along the lines
     
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    Asf 《《The aria of souls》》

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    Aldnonymous Male Member

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    My real debate is not what is correct in your country alone, but what is correct in every country.

    Because, lets get real this is Qidian "INTERNATIONAL".
     
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    oliver Well-Known Member

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    go on qidian, right now. scroll down to the bottom of the screen. what does it say there? TOS, or TERMS OF SERVICE. its not hidden behind a password. its not hidden some weird place on the site where noone looks. its right there, same place as NUF. if you dont read it, that is your fault.
     
  18. Digix

    Digix Owl-sama Follower

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    RRL says you can keep and terminate whenever you want they offer ad services to help you if needed and some jargon about agreeing to some monetary deferment which is normal for a service. also they offer the best deal out of all three
     
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    Aldnonymous Male Member

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    LOOK ANOTHER GUY GETS IT!

    "By doing this you agree with ToS and ABCDASCJKDKJAKJ"

    Or whatever, just make a warning!
     
  20. UnGrave

    UnGrave ななひ~^^

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    I think the main difference would be that you can easily take your novel off rrl and publidh it to Amazon, whereas with ql I don't think you will be able to do a similar thing.
     
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