LCD Overgeared

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by hanglekuk, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. Raneday

    Raneday Not Rane

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    oh another legendary item, but he need to give that to the lord of Pangea right?
     
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    Shield Loyalist 『Instinctive』『Status: Hungry for Growth』

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    I don't recall Grid making any item for Zibal, who is one of the perpetrators of the first Reidan attack.
     
  3. Vincent1873

    Vincent1873 Well-Known Member

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    We weren't talking about Grid. We were talking about the guy who challenged him to the blacksmithing contest.
     
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    momonga143 Well-Known Member

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    That greats word was just an epic...If not an ordinary legend... There was nothing special about it. The only special thing about that blacksmith is that he knows the crafting method of the dwarves and nothing else.
     
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    Vincent1873 Well-Known Member

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    It being special wasn't the point. We were questioning if he ever made anything decent that he might have designed. If the number 2 player thinks it's a good weapon then it's probably at least a unique. If he designed it himself is unknown.
     
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    Ah! The weapon Zibal used in Drake raid...iirc it was Unique rated but I forgot its stats. I just remember it's something PvE related.
     
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    I think the virtuous duke title will lead to monster subordinate. They will give up their drops and swear loyalty (Non-boss monsters with intelligence). However, I feel like the monsters that swear loyalty won't give out exp, which could be an issue as well. I don't think developers would troll players to the point that there is no benefit.
     
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    Damn Grid stealing Duke of Virtuous from his sister, she could have received that power up.

    Edit: Also, building a harem of uncles? I'm in! Misfortune on Grid is always a fun sight to behold
     
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    Not really lol... He didint make anything special... His best work was rated legendary nothing more.. unlike grids legend items he has the skill patience something and skill breath which will improve his craft by 30%+ so any other blacksmith who is not legendary rating is just trash. The only exception is when a blacksmith made a legend item and turns himself into legend too. Since that would mean that item he made was so special that he became legendary. Other than that it's safe to assume everything he makes is ordinary.
    Also about the reproduction skill, it's safe to say that that skill is all about original production which give maximum freedom to the owner of it. Unlike weed in LMS who craft things based on molds (which btw doesn't give him anything good except when his other skills are involve which gives extra bonus) the reproduction skill actually gives you a blueprint towards you own goal type. If you want to make an item hat fives certain buffs or effects you can't just go nilly nilly willy on it. Cause if you do you would just be wasting time and resources. The author keeps on giving statements that use braham. That said he is wasting one of pagmas greatest skill since he is only major basic stuff with it which goes back to author making grid look stupid. He can make ANYTHING WITH THAT SKILL not just your plain old blacksmith creation type that uses imagination. For example he can make a god based weapons. No ordinary Smith's can do that since they don't have the skill nor the know how of it. But that reproduction skill will adjust grids design to better fit it as such. In lower levels it doesn't mean much but in higher levels it will be so OP that it will be broken. The only problem grid has with it is that if he make a ridiculous item it give a really high restriction for it hence useless toward the early levels.
     
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    My thoughts exactly. That Virtue would easily gather 'good deeds' needed to power up Saintess class.

    edit: well Sehee still has a shot for West Continent's Duke of Virtue so there's a chance they become The Virtuous Siblings instead.
     
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    Also the blueprint reproduction are for people trying out as blacksmith but don't know a thing about it. It's not really needed but it's essential towards that profession. Sure you can make an axe or sword with a mold but the result will be trash. And they need to keep on doing that till they get the reproduction method of it so it will be atleast significant. Remember no matter how real life this VR is it is still a game. So ending part of it is reproduction methods are the best the only exception as I said is that they need to be Thier own legend. Like kraugel. Grid is limited to class based quest. But if a blacksmith becomes a legend of his own. There is a high chance that they can make Thier own ways to make Thier own style of it hence grids legendary production skill.
     
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    Now that I think about it. We should just safely assume that no blacksmith other than legendary can make Thier own items. All blacksmith below legend will only have to follow production method to make things if not it won't work at all... Most game are like that. And by doing so legends will be more special that way.
     
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    But Grid's Duke of Virtue is incomplete since its only "Pangea's", so wouldn't it be likely for him to complete the Duke of Virtue by collecting them from other region too?
     
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    How about duke of vice master is duke of virtue you know right that chuni chief of staff it will be hillarious
     
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    Was there only being 10 legendary players for the entire game or was it for the western continent only?
    I kinda forgot
     
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    What is special? Comparable to Grid? No. It's compared to the average weapon of that level. Holding legendary blacksmiths as the average and saying everything else is trash in nonsense. Nonsense that has nothing to do with the conversation I was having.

    Once again ignoring the point.
    Finally you address the actual point. The problem is that we see other blacksmiths making their own items. Khan created a powerful item for Grid iirc. The blacksmiths in this competition clearly just made production methods for the phoenix bow. Thus a more reasonable assumption would be that you need to be an Advanced Blacksmith to do so not a legendary blacksmith.
     
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    Miss Skill Duplicator was able to make a dagger that 'beat' Grid in a crafting contest without a dagger blueprint.

    The blueprints are like guidelines, you don't need them to make an item, but they save a lot of time and resources that would otherwise be required for creating new items manually through repeated testing.
    Grid probably has dozens of spear and bow blueprints by now, but he can and has made new types of bows and gained new blueprints that way, his Legendary Blacksmith's Creation skill just gives him a far greater control over the end result in terms of options, in this case the Red Pheonix Bow (Reproduction) that would have been difficult to finish even with the White Hammer Smithy's blueprint.
     
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    creation skill reduce the needed time and materials in production....
    with the creation skill grid won't need to experiment on new materials and production method and simply follow the blueprint to achieve the desired end product...
    an example of it is the invisibility hoody... grid don't know how to process the materials to make the hoody to get the desired effect thus grid used the creation skill... if grid didn't use the skill he will have to get a production method or experiment with the materials to get the desired effect and that will consume a lot of time and materials...

    about grid making item without production methods that will depend on grids past experiences and experimentations using skills and techniques he learned following production method and experimention...
     
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    lololol XD XD
     
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    There is 10 legends in the West Continent, so should be 10 "descentend class".One less because of Piaro, One more because of Murmud.
    But you can became a legend without being a descentend, so the nunber can be bigger
     
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