Discussion When most of the NU pages are filled with Qidian webnovels...

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by Ner0, Jul 15, 2018.

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  1. Ner0

    Ner0 Well-Known Member

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    I'm starting to resent this site's concept.
    Because it only accepts translated webnovels, Qidian appears to have the monopoly on the webnovel industry.

    Now the pages of Novelupdate are filled with Qidian novels, it's at the point that NU appears to be the advertiser of Qidian.

    On translated webnovels, there won't be any competition, everyone knows it. China is a major source of translated webnovels, where Qidian already dominates the scene.

    That's why I think NU will stop to exist very soon unless it evolves to something that gathers both translated and original webnovels. Maybe form ties with original webnovel hosting website?
    Another option is to associate with Qidian to promote their webnovels.
     
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  2. Bad Storm

    Bad Storm no thought, head empty

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    But you could just use release filter on Qidian... :blobpeek::blobpeek:
     
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    I don't really notice this cause i filter Q from my update list, but to newcomers, yeah, its like blatantly making them inquisitive of Q... welp, capitalism for the win i guess?
     
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    juniorjawz Well-Known Member

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    Or you could just say Tony is being a bit lazy. :p
    Though that's a discredit to him since he mostly does stuff alone.

    I do however agree that NU needs to evolve. It's becoming a stale website in my opinion and it needs to grow. It needs to adress problem that currently exist and prepared to theoretical troubles that might come up.
     
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    DocB "I see you, little mouse! Run along"

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    And what you describe only happens at 3 ám gtm due the fact that qidian releases all its premium novels at the same time
     
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    Bad Storm no thought, head empty

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    Not just newcomers, but also those who are too lazy to create an NUF account.
     
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    Ojou-sama Well-Known Member

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    Qidian is slowly taking over the NU...
     
  8. Wargod

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    Yup one of the reasons i created a NU account the Q s%*# hate their premium policy

    Lots of other posts come when you put the filter
     
  9. Warger

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    I think it's fine as it is. If it started linking to original novels as well that would probably be one of the worst outcomes. Yes there are plenty of Qidian novels but there are many, many other novels that we just flat out wouldn't be aware of if not for NU. (Also there are only about 4-5 pages of updates a day anyways so it isn't too hard to just scroll through.)
     
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    but why isn't jp or kr major tl'ers don't employ a strategy like Q? just curious.. yeah i know of preemium, buy only stuff, but i mean why not do the freeemiumm model like Q also? makes me wonder..
     
  11. Robbini

    Robbini Logical? Illogical? Random? Or Just Unique?

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    If you don't like Qidian or want people to read their novels, then bringing to attention that qidian has lots and lots of novels they update almost daily doesn't really help your cause.

    But have you considered that there's also a fair amount of original novels on qidian which would be included if we included them ?
     
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    Tramsloof Quarter Erudite

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    What everybody said.
     
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    Amaruna Myu ugly squid dokja (●´∀`●)

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    I doubt japanese and korean novels will go under QI?
     
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    prongsjiisan Apostle of Violence

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    It's just they released massive chapter. Just filter it and you'll be fine
     
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    Bright_Lucky_Star [Previously Known as OrdinaryUser] The Blessed One

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    Vex Eat-Sleep-Repeat

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    Well you do see Qidan all over NU. But if you click on them you realise that half of them are barely worth a 3 star, unlike Qidan which blantantl shows it's novel being 4 star +.

    So it's not bad...
    Plus u have the release filters. Lol.
     
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    PercherTM Go go power ranger!

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    my thing is, if i like the novel idc about the poster but.
    yeah qidian is pretty spammy. i think we should make bulk releases by a single translator into one collapsible category
    or turn multiple releases of the same novel into 1 "chapter xx - chapter xxx" format so it doesnt spam
     
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    Yenpress had something like this but they failed hard for JP novels.
     
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    Well, this is based on translated webnovels. So yeah, Qidian release at least 40% of the webnovels showing on NU.

    It's not a problem of seeing or hiding Qidian. If you don't want to read Qidian webnovels then you could hide all their chapters.
    The point is that this site is restricted to release only translated webnovels, when Qidian is already the major contributor to the world's translated webnovels. If you are following Qidian novels, you could just follow them on their site.

    So if we remove Qidian, what do we have left? Will the future of NU only focus on the sparse translation websites, who for many reasons don't want to steal Chinese webnovels from Qidian? So only Japanese, Korean and Indian webnovels?
    Or be a stage for the major webnovel companies to operate their business (Qidian, Gravity Tales, Novel Universe International)
     
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    On 6th July, for a certain length of time, the front-page has 11 releases from Qidian International, 13 releases from Wuxiaworld and 16 releases from Novel Universe International. Yet no one is saying NU is WW's advertiser, or NUI's advertiser.

    NU is on neutral grounds. If QI floods the page, it usually happened for only a while before they are pushed off of the front page. If you see otherwise, for example what is happening with mass release for the CEO novel from QI, you can report it via the form you can reach from your NU profile.

    There's even Release Filtering implemented for registered members. What more can you ask for? Complete removal of them? Then that's an injustice to the novels on there, isn't it?

    There's already options to satisfy the needs for people who doesn't want to see the releases. They're not perfect, but they got the job done, for now.

    As for OEL,
    One of my biggest annoyance on any novel translation site is when the original and translations are mixed up. A separate site or categorization would do, but most sites just mix them up. If NU were to, as you say, add Originals along with the translation releases with no choice of separating between the two, then I'd probably be the first to resign.

    And I so so wished people would take the time and read the bold and italic sentence on the Add Series page.
     
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