Spoiler The Founder of Diabolism

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  1. Cemlemine

    Cemlemine Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to change my current husband lool
     
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    mariahilise Well-Known Member

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    He did this? I don’t recall reading that in chapter 111
     
  3. leto_b

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    I mtled the uncensored version so i may have misread somethings but i am pretty sure he did
     
  4. hiryukaede

    hiryukaede The reader that always hunting an unique story~~~

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    Well,... Just try it in Thai or phili version... They have all smut scene, also all the extra... Its was heaven, my inner self already satisfied... LWJ and WWX... i really like them both!!:blobnosebleed:
     
  5. salbireo

    salbireo RanWan ❤

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    Can you give the link? :cookie:
     
  6. Froliczxc

    Froliczxc Well-Known Member

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    Hey fellow perverts,

    I've translated the NSFW version of Chapter 111 complete with smut scenes.

    PDF version
    Read on Tumblr

    Unfortunately, after scouring the net for awhile, I wasn't able to find the NSFW version of Chapter 111 in the Edited Version (经修版) of the novel, hence this chapter was taken from the Original Version (原版).

    In the original version, there was no big reunion with Lan SiZhui and readers were left with a bittersweet ending - Lan SiZhui had never approached Wei WuXian on the matter, and many seemed to prefer that over a 'happily ever after' scenario.

    What do you think? Is the reunion a good or bad thing for you? :)
     
  7. StarSaber

    StarSaber <3 Everyday is Everyday.... secretly Wei Wuxian.

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    This is amazing! Thank you. :blobnosebleed:
     
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  8. Cypress

    Cypress Eh, what's "outside"? /sinks into bed

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    This pervert really appreciates your hardwork. Thank you!!
     
  9. salbireo

    salbireo RanWan ❤

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    I love the reunion part, because it was where shizui realised who he is, then met his beloved mommy and daddy :blobpopcorn:

    Thank you very much for translate and add Word notes. I can learn new thing about chinese culture. :blobmelt:
     
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  10. YaoiMom22

    YaoiMom22 Madam Lan (XiChen) ... for reasons.

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    Dear lord that was gorgeous. Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a wonderful thing to come home to after work! As far as the reunion scene, I did prefer it in the chapter but since I've got both versions to read now I don't feel its loss as strongly.
     
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  11. Randomizer

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    I like the reunion, the 'sweet' resolution is an echo of the 'bitterness' of the revised Second Siege (where the corpses of the slaughtered Wen clan members awakened and reunited with WWX/LWJ/WN/LSZ, then sacrificed themselves to save everyone). Regarding the the characters:

    Lan SiZhui - As LWJ said, eventually he had to know, and the best way was for him to figure out on his own. LSZ's acknowledgement of his heritage alongside his current identity brings the conflict between Wen and Lan/Nie/Jiang/Jin to a peaceful close.

    Wen Ning - In the original he just catches WWX's eye and leaves on his own. Wen Ning has one of if not the most tragic storylines (particularly with the revised Second Siege) - now for the first time, he's free to speak about what *he* wants to do. IMO this ending also emphasizes that he's not alone, he has family and friends to accompany him.

    Wei WuXian - Protecting the Wen clan was the turning point where the cultivation world turned on him; it was also JC's most venomous and unjust accusation in the GuanYin temple. Post-revival, for all WWX knew he had utterly failed, he was like XXC who tried his best but ended up hated, with nothing to show for his efforts but dust and blood on his hands. Then he had to watch the innocent Wen clan survivors die *again*, this time protecting their own murderers who *still* think of them as hateful sub-human 'Wen dogs', who don't express an ounce of pity or sympathy.

    So seeing Wen Yuan again, knowing that the little boy he was so fond of survived and grew up into such a wonderful young man with a bright future… that is the first and most important 'proof' that WWX's struggle in his first life wasn't in vain, a slight lightening of the pain and sorrow in WWX's heart. On a meta level, it's the story's 'response' to all the wrongful accusations WWX faced over protecting the Wen clan.
     
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  12. YaoiMom22

    YaoiMom22 Madam Lan (XiChen) ... for reasons.

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    I could not agree more with all of this. Well put!
     
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  13. MikotoP

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    Thank you very much for the translation!! ><

    Reading it reminded me that wasn't there a chapter where WWX was pretend rape LWJ? WWX asked LWJ why he isn't resisting, LWJ said it's difficult so WWX asked to switch roles which LWJ was much more than willing to.
     
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  14. YaoiMom22

    YaoiMom22 Madam Lan (XiChen) ... for reasons.

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    I have a question for anyone who may know. Does the novel ever specifically say that LWJ was reading gay porn to figure out how to do it to WWX? I remember there was a twitter interview or something with the author where she mentioned him masturbating (or not? I couldn't really figure it out) but idk if that was where the porn was mentioned or if it was actually in the novel.

    Anyone care to clarify? :hmm:
     
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    There is. .but it was on the extra story.;););)
     
  16. EmperorSmile

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    I believe the answer's yes, but like what yully said it was in a side-story.
    It described several stories of LWJ and WWX entering each other's dreams, under the effect of a dream-making incense burner. Once they entered one of LWJ's dreams that he had had during the time when WWX was still studying in the Lan clan,and together they saw the younger version of themselves (about 16 years old if I did not remember it wrong) in the library and WWX was teasing LWJ about those erotic pictures. Then LWJ couldn't resist anymore and pressed WWX down to the ground(in his dream) and the two of them..well, you know what happened.
    But before LWJ topped WWX I think he said sth like 'How do you know I don't know(about sex between men)??' And also, later when LWJ's really on top of WWX, the latter wanted to fight back by throwing a book at LWJ's face but it happened to be a book with pictures of men having sex... and seeing the pics the grown WWX was amazed by how detailed little LWJ's dream was.
    So it can be inferred that LWJ, as young as 16, knew about homosexual sex and he must have read some related books previously to produce such ...delicious dreams...
     
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  17. salbireo

    salbireo RanWan ❤

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    Lan zhan.. so you secretly... :blobthinkingsmirk::blobthinkingsmirk::blobthinkingsmirk:
    Don't worry we won't tell Qiren about this :blobamused:
     
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  18. tokinokanatae

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    Heh, I think chapter 62 must have left me with some sort of PTSD.

    I read relatively quickly, so after a certain number of chapters have been translated, I go back and reread the entire story from the beginning. At this point, I've read what's currently been translated, probably about fifteen times? Because of this, LWJ ended up my favorite character. My opinion on him always ends up shifting between rereads.

    After chapter 62, it's hard for me to find the early scenes with him drunk or him getting jealous all that funny or "cute" any more. The first time he gets drunk, there's a bit where he keeps asking WWX over and over again what happened last night. Then from his POV (I can't read Chinese, so maybe it wasn't there in the original) the narration has him thinking that it must have been something major, for WWX to keep laughing like that.

    It's obvious LWJ thinks he must have confessed his love or made his affections clear in some way. It's equally as obvious that LWJ doesn't think WWX would be kind or even flattered upon learning this information--no, WWX would think it was hilarious. LWJ, who tried his awkward best to help WWX when he was alive, endured horrific punishment from his own Sect in his protection of WWX, and has mourned him for unceasingly for more than a decade. All that would just be the punchline of a joke to WWX, in LWJ's eyes.

    That kills me.

    I don't think WWX is obligated to love LWJ--though he does!--just because LWJ loves him. But I think it really does say something, that there is that fear still within LWJ of WWX ridiculing him like he used to while WWX was still alive. That he thinks WWX would be unkind about it. That he thinks WWX could and would leave him on a whim, but he's still there waiting outside the hotel in Qinghe for him. That he gets jealous, but only watches from afar, because he doesn't feel like he has the right to interfere.

    Please make this man happy, WWX!

    (On the other hand, LWJ using Bichen to slice off the clothing on male corpses to avoid having WWX de-pants them will never stop being hilarious.)
     
  19. MikotoP

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    I know about the incense burner side story, but I don't think that is it?
    ()_()
    (OxO)m I know for sure though that it was an extra chapter/side story.
    WWX was about to pretend rape LWJ and LWJ laid there without doing anything. LWJ said that its difficult to resist. WWX then said to rape him instead and MianMian's daughter came upon them making out.
     
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  20. Fiorisi

    Fiorisi [WenNing's Waifu] [Chongy's Mum] ଘ(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭

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    So far current translated flashback chapters are up to Wei's reunion with Cheng & Wangji after being thrown into the Burial Mounds. I'm pretty sure Wangji at this point is aware of his feelings towards Wei~ But his bad communication skills are not helping ┐( ̄ヘ ̄)┌
     
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