LCD Dungeon Defense

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by Estarossa, Jul 23, 2016.

  1. CountryMage

    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    He brought her over to where he was screwing the other sisters, trying to get her to join in, don't know for sure if he raped her. Not in the LN anyway.
     
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    dave186 Well-Known Member

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    She was not raped, she said that her brother tryed to make her join his incestuous harem but she managed to get away before the rape susseded, how she get away is kind of fuzzy in my head but I think that she get away because there was when she killied one of the sisters and the brother have to shut up because otherwise he would have been exposed too, the killing do happened though I just dont remember if was there or later
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    She got pulled into the room, from what I remember, and then the brother joined the other sisters already getting it on. She watched a bit, then left, but the next time they got together for fun times, he found both sisters dead. He can't explain why they were together, why he was there, why he suspects her, nothing.
     
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    Starting to feel the itch. Do we know when the next volume will come bless us with its presence?
     
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    The discussion about it having a too high level of plagiarism to be legal? Hard for me to judge anything about it since a translation distorts things heavily when it comes to details like that.
     
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    It's currently being written I last heard a few days ago
     
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    Liron Well-Known (Failed) Prophet

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    Oh? Please explain that story to me, I’m completely out of the loop regarding that
     
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    Liron Well-Known (Failed) Prophet

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    Honestly, I read all of the so mentioned “stolen quotes” and while there are similarities, it was not a direct copy-paste in 99% of the cases. Actually, a lot was changed. Plus, they were only isolated quotes, while some don’t even mean the same thing as the original in DD. People usually call this references. I say calling the specifics quotes on this link plagiarism is ridiculous. They are similar, yes, but without the context they were used in both works that means fucking nothing to me, and wouldn’t to a judge and a jury too, given the large differences in most of them.

    The ones that were batlantly copied (yes, they are there) are almost centuries old and from people like Nietszche, for example. Given the MC’s upbringing on earth, him mentioning it as a reference is not absurd, even more when we see his mindset.

    I say there is no case here, unless the mtl in the link muddied a lot of stuff and what is identical in japanese or korean changed in this translation I saw.
     
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    venu101 Well-Known Member

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    Hmm? Is the novel in deep doodoo?
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    If it's just isolated sentences, and phrases, I don't see the problem, the character does quote a lot of things, but these are notable quotes from "historical" works. It would be another thing if he was lifting whole sections from other fiction author's work. Though now that I think about it, is it plagiarism, if the MC writes up a romance novel (more likely a porn novel) for the witches, and it's an actual work in the real world, that he read at some point before reincarnating?
     
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    Theory: the power of Aphrodite’s Apostle.
    Since Aphrodite is the goddes of love and procreation I would think that this skill would give him another effect. Allow him to make a child with the people that has a high relationship points. It would make sense because of all the S class skills he could choose this was the most lacklucster of all and it would make him parrellel his father more if he has lots of children.
    Edit: thinking about it more, I think the parallel with his father would be my main reason for thinking this though.
     
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    He explains his reason for choosing this, but what pisses me off is when he ignores what little use this power does have in volumes 3-4 when it would be very useful in sussing out people who are bullshitting him, or knowing Paimon is sincere. I doubt he's so delusional that he's aiming to repeat his father's mistakes and if anything he will just put his all into making sure any harem he ends up with is functional.
     
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    Accuse the author for use Nietzsche and Kant without know how actual copyrights work or mention their official translations' copyrights. Can't really take someone seriously when that person sounds like an ignorant country pumpkin
     
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    personally I just thought he was using it in the background and we just dont see the exact numbers anymore. I would also think that the power dosent work in his dreams and that he dose his long interagation to see the change in mental state of that person to confrim suspitions.
     
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    Also reading the prologe again it seems that our demon lord is one of the maim figure of the war. That wasn't what he planned for himself. So ether he was pushed on to the forefront by his harem, or some shit happened that made him famous. Or the author was trying to bait normies.
     
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    We've talked about this earlier, and the conclusion is pretty much that the game elements were a bait and switch. They're prominent in the prologue, and then are quickly discarded. Even his internal personality in the flash forward where he orders the execution of the lady is completely different from the person he is in the following story.

    A part of this might be because the author has re-written this story multiple times. In the earlier drafts the MC wasn't a sociopath, I assume a game element or two persists beyond the prologue, and so on.

    I dunno, maybe the author/editor thinks "real" books don't have game elements, and that having everyone being the same is interesting?

    It works just by looking at someone. He looks right at her while she's defending him, and he thinks she's not being sincere. Which is impossible if it still was a part of the narrative.

    The power just simply doesn't exist anymore.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    I think the problem is that he needed to have some relationship points for the person, before he could see their info, and the level we saw it at in the "prologue" was maxed out for trial purposes. So assuming the game elements weren't dropped, he would need to level up the skill before he starts seeing numbers that clearly, without the need to build a whole relationship.
     
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    The thing's S rank on his status card and there's been no indication that EXP or skill points are a part of this world. (Dungeon Attack itself was a strategy game, no?) I guess we can all make our own interpretations why it doesn't exist or do anything. It's okay if the book's a bit shoddy in places, there are worse examples of ret-cons and dropped content out there in other media.

    ^ Another example of a prominent feature that was dropped.
     
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    CountryMage [XSanguine8] not my blood...

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    Lot's of stories have skills with ranks, Appraisal is usually an A Rank, but it starts at level 1 like other skills. They also made it seem like he would have to earn points, for spending on skills, or buying units if he had gone the summoner route...so who knows how much of that still applies.
     
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