Teachers kicking students out of class?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Blazingprincess, Oct 30, 2018.

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who do you think was at fault?

  1. teacher

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  2. kid

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  3. both

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  1. Blazingprincess

    Blazingprincess Well-Known Member

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    Today in math my teacher told one of the kids to get out of the classroom because he was making weird noises when she was trying to teach-- that was at the beginning of class. Our class periods are about 50 minutes long, the kid had to stay outside for pretty much the whole time until the end of class. We were reviewing for a test as well so he's probably gonna fail now. When he tried to go inside halfway through the class period, the teacher just said, "What are you doing here? Get out." I feel like it's not allowed/ should be allowed because parents send their kids to school to learn stuff not to stand outside in the corridor. Pretty much everyone in my class doesn't like the teacher as well because she doesn't really explain the content she's teaching well and usually just assigns us worksheets/ homework to do that she hasn't explained.
    Edit: the thing is teacher didn't even give any warnings and she could have let him in after she finished giving instructions and stuff cuz we were doing stations

    Do you guys think the teacher is wrong or the kid? I feel like both of them were but the teacher went overboard with the punishment :/ should have just given a lunch detention so wouldn't have to miss class.
     
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  2. Robbini

    Robbini Logical? Illogical? Random? Or Just Unique?

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    She might have felt that if he couldn't focus on the lesson from the start, he couldn't focus even after he gets back in later
     
  3. Nino Sasou

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    I am curious
    What kind of weird noises?
     
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  4. Ophious

    Ophious Pathfinder kinda fun

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    Did the teacher tell the kid to stop before kicking him out? If she repeatedly told him to stop like maybe 5 times then it's the kids fault. If she instantly kicked him out because she was annoyed then it's her fault. But in all honesty I think it's both their fault, you shouldn't disrupt the class as a student and as a teacher you shouldn't have to resort to kicking a child out of a class, they are there to learn and not of their own free will
     
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  5. MH2

    MH2 [Former Child]

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    at least from where im from, most of the time, the teachers who are "soft" and just let the kid in dont really help.
    Why? Because when this happened in my class, the teacher let them in, the kid just becomes more bold and does whatever he wants cuz he knows he can just get back in and he wouldnt care. I usually respected teachers who put their foot down when a student takes it too far, then he would be more docile during class since he doesnt want to get kicked. in this case tho, unless the teacher told the kid multiple times before and was warned she shouldnt kick him out,she shouldnt throw him out over one silly mistake.

    he should be kicked out if multiple warnings are issued or when he makes it clear to the teacher that he doesnt want to learn.
     
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  6. Darkanlan

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    If the kid was interrupting the class, then he's harming everyone in it. So it's better to kick him out rather than have the rest of the class suffer from his actions. In society you don't say they'll suffer for it, so they shouldn't be punished. You punish people for the bad things they do, not reward them for it on account of their parents.

    If the kid acts out, chances are it's cause they want attention. Most kids like that have shitty parents who don't even bother paying attention to their kids. They hope by having the school contact their family that they'll finally get noticed. Though in that case them being kicked out off class is probably what they desired from the start. So no down side to kicking them out for them acting out. Though those types of people tend to do worse and worse things as their parents still don't pay them any attention.
     
  7. MH2

    MH2 [Former Child]

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    unless the kid doesnt want to learn and is a nuisance to the teacher and the class, then yes, the teacher should kick him out
    Though we need more context to be more accurate
     
  8. SoulZer0

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    Wow you're making a big deal out of the least harmful punishment a teacher can do to you at my high school.
     
  9. Vanidor

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    As you get older you realize you can’t fix people, you can only keep them away from you or anything important. Only they can fix themselves.

    If detentions work there would be no bad students.
     
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    as a teacher I think you failed as one if you kick a student out of class like that... I mean that person should have better control of the environment and her students. But oh well in the first place making noises during discussion is wrong and her sending that student out is also wrong. So both... btw if you can't understand the lessons in math you can just look for it in youtube there's a lot of people there who discuss it and I think you could learn it better there. And dude answer the damn seatworks they'll help you polish your math skills. Sure there are people who are talented in math but it can be trained through practice. Try asking that teacher as well when you don't get something some teacher's sucks at explaining specially math teachers some of them think it is simple enough but the students don't get it... the trick from learning from them is to ask more questions during discussion.
     
  11. canaria23

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    It all depends on if it was disrupting class or not. A teacher has to teach 20-40 kids, if 1 kid is disrupting the learning of the remaining 19-39 kids, well they have to be removed. That said, what constitutes as disrupting a class is questionable. And I can't answer your question if you can't clarify on what you mean by "weird noises". And did the teacher warn them first? Has the student in question done disruptive things before?

    On a side note:
    That said, I will say this, when I was in school there was a math teacher who wasn't exactly strict like yours but people couldn't learn squat because the teacher was a complete airhead. So pretty much everything went over the teachers head. So at one point people started to pass around a petition in his class to have the teacher fired. And on one coincidence, the dean who was sitting in the back of the class which people didn't notice got his hands on the note. We all thought we were goners but next day we got a new teacher to replace them for our class.
     
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    back when i was a kid, i made mistake at school and the teacher punished me, when i told my parents what happened at school, they punished me again.. it's not a big deal.
     
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    I mostly agree, though I believe both at fault even if she immediately booted him out.
    1. The kid is wrong regardless of the subsequent development. Period. What he could have done is try to openly apologise if he felt that he was wrong, and want to join back in.
    2. The teacher would not be wrong if she had repeatedly warned him. Preventing him from entering will depend on the situation and circumstances. Remember, this is not just about the 2 of them. He could be distracting other students and the teacher have to take that into consideration.
    While it is easy to put the blame on the teacher, we should take more time gathering more information before releasing our judgement. The student might fail, yes. But if handled poorly, an innocent and well wishing teacher could lose her job or even career.
     
  15. GuldTasken

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    What kind of country do you live in? Kinda makes more sense to understand the culture.
     
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    Cupcake Ninja [Kind Sage][Lord Benevolence][ The Great Paragon]

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    yeah....teaching kids academic knowledge isnt the only job of the school. They also try to teach you manners, discipline. Now maybe that teacher doesnt do either well but that student was being a little shit and he can learn the material some other time if he really wanted. You can just not pay attention to the teacher, thats fine its your life. But dont you make weird noises and distract other kids and drag them down with you while they tryna learn stuff. Its fine to an extent, its just how things go. Cant stop it completely. Doesnt mean the teacher should just let it slide all the time tho. Examples have to be made. That was a good call. The consequences in that scenario were a lot higher and now maybe he'll learn to not be a cunt right before a test.

    That aside, she dont teach the subject well then she shouldnt be teaching at all. You can argue that you could learn the material through self stufy, and you can, but you shouldnt have to jump through those kinda hoops. Its her job to pass on the material in a way the majority at least can understand it. If she cant and you have to learn by yourself---not just you but other students too--then she has no business being a teacher at all.
     
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    Not sure where your school is, but I don't recall that being allowed anymore. Students are not allowed to be unsupervised during class and that a teacher would have or should have called security or had an administrator or councilor to escort the student to the main office. A loose student in the hallway can expose the school to unnecessary liability if the student does something or something happens to the student.

    Such as the student damages property in a fit of rage and in the process injures their self. That can carry some problems if the parents feel that the school was not looking out for their son/daughter and can sue the school. It's happened on more than a few occasions...

    Plus, you would want administrators documenting everything in case parents come back at the school for such incidents.
     
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    Nostalgia~ I remember when I was kicked out from the classroom, and the vice principal with other staff were passing by; I was pretty chill about it... yeah, not. I don't recall what I did to get kick out though, but it was a pretty nice experience to be honest. Fresh breeze of air in the hallway. Looking at the glimmer wet leaves on the ground, and cracks on the floors. Yep, it was a very nice experience. Sunlight and shadows at every edge and corner; creating an pastime ambiance. I say, it was better than the time I was sent to the principal's office for attempt on violence (possible murder?).:hmm:
     
  19. JerryHatrick

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    Teacher is fine. What kind of idiot disrupts a review class before a test. The lack of warnings is probably because he has a long history of being disruptive. Cut out the tumor before it spreads.
     
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    Back then, teachers could actually hit students. No clue why this is so shocking, it's so tame in comparison.
     
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