Haha yeah. Killing is a Utopia until people start killing others for looking at them funny...oh wait! Chinese novels already have those and people make threads to complain about those psychopaths
You hate pacifist? ok. It's not like the authors who create such mc's will change the story because of you anyway. Just read something else, I'm sure there are plenty other stories without such mcs.
One would hate pacifists because one thinks one knew better. That is, before the pacifist builds nukes and bombs everyone after bowing their heads and preparing for genocide for a long time. One then realizes that one should've hoped that the pacifist remain pacifist to the end of their lives.
Although I do agree with you somewhat, I also feel like murder and death should be taken more seriously in stories. I think people nowadays, including me, are getting number to violence, death, etc.. I feel that not caring about morals at all/going the "kill every enemy" route just makes the story edgy and kinda insensitive. To kill someone is a big thing for the killer you know, a lot of soldiers get PTSD from that. But I do agree that going full pacifist for no big reason at all is just stupid and very irritating for the readers. I think in cases like this the writers should try to delve into the topic deeper, not just going full pacifist/ kill everyone. Honestly, I feel like most of the time it's just lazy writing by the author that makes this such an issue. The progressive world wants to believe the good in everyone and that everyone deserves the chance to change so that's something to consider. But on the other hand, this kind of stories are usually power-fantasies where readers want to feel empowered by what they're reading and seeing the protagonist doing something stupid just to stroke their morals or ego just for it to bite them back really ticks readers off. Also, from what I've read, Naruto fanfics are almost like a satire written by edgy teens to Naruto, exaggerating his characteristics and dumbing his character down, leaving out any character depth.
Complaining about not enough kills in Naruto's fanfiction ? *Close this post and go clean my brain out to forget it while rambling that Darwin should do it's job*...
Do you know Pokemon? Beat em and take half of their money as an lesson.... Though idk if they can reach home before dying from hunger , thrist, or wild monster
JP Shounen are targeted for male teens so you'd expect it's all about power of friendship and heroism or justice whatsoever.
So is this a rant? Seems like a rant about shounen protagonists in general. I'm bored, so I'm going to discuss with you about your rant. ATG is not shounen, so this can't be used as a comparison, because as other comments have replied; different target audience. Itachi is not the protagonist of Naruto, and yes; he might be a hero but he still a villain. He is an anti-hero. Which of these evil bastards are you referring to, and from which shows or manga? Reference please, since you're too vague, and most villains in shounen tend to lighten the crimes said villains commit due to the genre. There you have it, fan-fiction. Inaccurate information may lead you to wrongful bias towards the shounen genre in general. Power levels have nothing to do with moral choices, rather why include power levels if you rant is about pacifism? Again, please state which shounen story you're ranting about, since you're not being specific, and Naruto fan-fiction is excepted, because its fan-fiction. Bleach is shounen with some elements of seinen due to plot progression. Though deaths have been seen in Bleach, said protagonist never kills the enemy with the intention to kill of moral choice except when Ichigo is under hollowfication, or plot demands it so but the death of an antagonist is due to another character, rather than the moral decision of Ichigo. Clarification: Aizen is alive, not dead. Meme: When were you under the assumption that Ichigo could kill Aizen? Also, if you never liked shounen, because the protagonist does not kill; then you're reading or watching the wrong genre and as stated by other comments of this thread. Target audience reflects the genre of the story. Again, as I stated; please choose a shounen protagonist or stories, so we can evaluate them based on your negative views about the whole shounen genre.
yeah but bats does his job and locks up the baddies, its not his fault the rest of the police and super heroes cant keep them locked up. I mean he isnt the one refusing to give murderers the electric chair. He just brings them in, ya know?
Read Bakuman(manga about making a manga), shounen genre usually doesn't allow murder, or the main characters killing another person be it a super evil antagonist. It's aimed to young boys(lit. shounen) so yeah if you want a not so pacifist MC avoid shounen.
Adding more recommendation from light Novel The new gate Nidoume no Jinsei wo Isekai de Mahouka Summoned Slaughterer And much more, above are my reading list. PS... Don't read shonen manga or ln they're just sucks
Your answer is easy. For shonen and all it's related works it audience is technically means boys- or underage. So technically no killing for you. Basically its pg13 you can't see the blood and no killing on screen. All stories that have the McCain committing murder where its visable..is senin. Or for adults. There is a lot less senin stuff out there then shounen. Shounen has a wider audience. So people tend to use it more. And by using it you have to follow its rules. That means little to no real death. At least it can't be your mc committing murders wily nilly. Naruto is shounen. No matter what installment it is. Its shounen. Unless its porn.
the term isn't pacifist desu~ pacifists don't fight at all... desu~ a person who doesn't kill someone out of sheer goodness is arrogant desu~ cause there is no other word in english that I know that defines this phrase accurately desu~
Seig Katze! Anyways, I agree that murder and death should be taken more seriously in general, but knowledge and culture affects one's own perception of reality towards murder and death. A lot of people can discuss so much about this topic, but all will be in vain, as such discussion is on the basis of a fictional story or reality. As long they know its not real, the gravity of the situation or the actions seen or read by the readers in the story can never truly feel the weight of murder and death, because they know its fiction. Good manga to read about pacifism, but Thorfinn is not a hero. He is a simply a man haunted by what he considers hateful, aggressive, and most of all, unforgiving. Currently, he struggles to reach Vinland and seek a world without harm or extreme bloodshed, but he must first overcome his past ties with his bloody past as a viking.