Question Need Help. Is this legal?

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  1. Gatsu

    Gatsu Well-Known Member

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    Can I be sued for posting chapters of a novel that belongs to a certain company if they are not translating?
     
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    shadowreader Well-Known Member

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    Probably
     
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  3. art17

    art17 [Wandering Poet]

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    As long as you dont blatantly monetizing the translations... It should be okay...

    Dont translate Qidian stuff... Fanfic from Qidian are okay to translate though...
     
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  4. arceus

    arceus The Invisible Reader

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    Ofcourse! But, they usually only do it once you start monetising your translations.
     
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  5. tahzib1451

    tahzib1451 Title?is it food?

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    as long as it aint Q
     
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  6. DocB

    DocB "I see you, little mouse! Run along"

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    sued no, at most you will recieve a DMCA, at that point you may remove all problematic content and nothing more will happen or refuse and the company may seek to focibly remove, normally talk with the webste host (wordpress, etc) about removing you from their service or get your information for suing purposes
    problem with suing is which country laws most be followed, for the company may want it in their country A, but you are in country B and the site might even be country C, so suing is a hellhole that not many company are willing to go on the internet
     
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  7. DiabolicGod

    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    afaik you can't be sued, as long as you don't earn more money from it than is needed to host your website
    so as long as there is no profit, you won't get sued, only asked to remove it
     
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  8. elengee

    elengee Daoist Ninefaps

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    I thought you were gonna post a picture of a loli. :hmm:
     
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  9. Jigoku Shounen

    Jigoku Shounen An Envoy From Hell

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    If you are in the same country, then the chance are yes.
    If you aren't in the same country, then unless you monetize the works and Gain Large Profits and Fame, then the chance are high.
    If you aren't in the same country, then even if you monetize the works, but if your profits are only dime compare to that company profit, as in they don't even need to look at you, then at most you will be getting DMCA.
    If you are using Q works, then even if you aren't from the same country, you are either "signing" yourself a "Free Contract" to them that they can take away(steal) your works without your consents as any moment they want when they see that the works you are doing have gain enough Popularity, or both that And you will be DMCA by them, bugged by them, and keep on being so until either you stop doing them so they can find someone to take away your works and ride on the "Popularity Waves" you have created or you have to "sign" a "legal contract" to work for them, but your works will still belong to them, as in all the rights of your translation, not your anymore.

    To answer the question of your title, in fact, the moment you try to do a translation for a work Without permission from the Author, or for CN novels then the rights from the company, then it's already illegal.
     
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  10. ZZZ...zzz

    ZZZ...zzz Active Member

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    I believe everyone can sue for anything ...
    But it doesn't mean that they are right.
     
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  11. Gatsu

    Gatsu Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the help guys!
     
  12. Estarossa

    Estarossa 《Master of Dessert》°Resurrected Ghoul°

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    Lolis arent legal, theyre justice
     
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  13. Soren59

    Soren59 MTL Shill

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    Can you be sued? Technically yes.

    Will it happen? Incredibly unlikely, unless they (the copyright holder) send you take-down notice first and you ignore it. Even then it's unlikely although I wouldn't recommend doing that for both ethical and legal reasons of course.

    Either way, not worth their time and money to turn it into a lawsuit unless you're making big bucks on it. Moreso if you like in a different country.
     
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    Taurus3301 Well-Known Member

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    Asking for legal advice on a novel sites forum, definitely foolproof.
     
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  15. Otwentyfirst

    Otwentyfirst skillfully clueless // lazy book reader ;)

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    If they started right off by threatening to sue, they're pretty scammy. there are law firms that specialize in scamming people out of money through scare tactics.

    Normally you'd get sent a dmca complaint. once you remove all copyrighted content in the dmca they sent that actually belongs to them you should be fine. end of matter.

    Should you choose not to remove it and they are willing to pursue the issue, then they would take the next step, which is to bring a lawsuit to get a judgement to force you to take it down.

    it shouldn't matter if you made money from the translations, it's probably a negligible amount. don't let them bully you, but if they are the genuine copyrights holder then be nice and remove the content. it doesn't matter if the work is not licensed in English. the copyright holder has rights to all derivatives if the work.

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    am i the only one not bashing qidian? i think they're ok. for all the drama and angst i have yet to see them attack any fan translators. even with wuxia.... he has coiling dragon out in kindle. and other well known titles are still up on all the fan sites. if they wanted to be dicks wouldn't they send a dmca to all of them?
     
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    abcalltheway Well-Known Member

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    Bestnway is take 20-30% of THE profit and give qidian 70-80% / IF they even Aloe it that is...
     
  17. Rumby

    Rumby Rumbly Tumbly

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    Um im pretty sure qi did ddos and dmca wuxiaworld despite wuxiaworld buying exclusive license to translate from them, so ren was gonna sue I guess after wrapping up translating the novels. But they had a deal where qi could dual host stuff so that's probably what you're referring to ^^
    They did go after volare and some other tls and stole their translation after dmcaing.
    There's a big thread about it, but on mobile too lazy to look and link for u. It should be like qi vs ww merge if you'd rather search.

    But I agree with your points ^^
    At most they'd just request a takedown. Still getting ddos and tl stolen pretty much is too much.
     
  18. Ai chan

    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    They need to send a letter of demand from a lawyer first. Nowadays, DMCA made it easier, but not every country accepts this standard. But if you ignore the letter of demand from a lawyer, then yes, they can sue you. They have to give you a cease and desist demand first before they can sue you.

    In other words, they can't sue you right off the bat. They need to make you know and understand first that if you keep hosting the chapters, they will take legal actions on you. As for being impossible to be present to receive the judgement, you can still be put on trial and be found guilty even if you've never set foot in court.
     
  19. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Suing is a long shot. They can get your web host to take down your website
     
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    kryuzei Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, this would probably be your most immediate problem. They probably won't try to actually sue you, but they can take down your site
     
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