Discussion how can i win my debate?

The poor family might be happy, but being happy doesn't put food in your stomach and a roof over your head. At the same time, happiness is subjective and can change. For example, you might be happy with your family when your poor now, but later that might change when things get really bad. Also, if your unhappy rich, there is always the possibility of meeting someone and becoming happy then.

 

If you can retort his arguments, look at the causality arguments they make and the statements, opinions stated as truths like "the basis of the families is the happiness, or smth like that" are easily broken, also you can give the counter argument/argument that while those families are happy now, it's an unstable happiness, as without proper savings any situation can easily turn downhill fast, while in a rich broken family, while they are broken now, there is more space to bring things together etc

 

If being poor bring happiness then would all the rich people abandon it? Of course not. Being rich is the happiness itself!

 

Do as these wise people said and you'll be good~

 

I come from a middle class but decently close family and I am happy with it but to play devils advocate (not really my true opinions) if you come from a rich family at least you have money and power. You don't even have to worry about your family because if they don't care guess what? You can go backpacking in peru, tour castles in europe, become cultured, make friends/your own family because being family doesn't require blood, do all the things people dream about. So what if you have a broken family? You can start a business (make serious bank), become a famous researcher/academic (because your family donated an entire building to a college), use your money to get in with famous people and become a star (Kardashian it up), all for the price of a broken family. You could use that money/influence/power/etc to do anything you can dream of in life and most people don't even want to hang out with family anyways so how much do you really lose? Most people that don't come from small tight knit communities don't even care about family anyways so if you could choose between family (which you might not even want to be around often) or being able to do whatever you can dream of in life what would you choose? Would you be a family man or would you live it up like Dan Bilzerian? You already know most peoples answer.

 

Second post for a Real Answer:
Most broken rich people got there by being sociopathic as$holes, so that's the attitude you'd need to understand - or at least reflect - to win the debate. For example:
Who cares about stupid, intangible things like love, when real money and real power allows you to disobey laws at whim? The poor but happy family irritates you? Then have one of daddy's minion's bribe a county court clerk to add an alias linking to a 20 year old rape case in the fathers' hometown, so he'll have to fight against that kind of suspicion. Send another minion to seduce the father as things get tough - or at least create the suspicion of it. Rinse, repeat, then sprinkle some 3rd party bullying in school against their kids (your opponent). You can savor the collapse of their 'happy family' as they tear each other apart, and nothing will be able to fight against the Real Power of money. ESPECIALLY in the current age. Contrary to the bull$hit in media and entertainment, love wins you nothing against abuse of power.

 

And this. Then you're good to go~
You could also watch some YouTube videos on how people live in poor countries, maybe something on how being poor/rich influences relationships and how hardships affect relationships.
Edit: pyramidhead and Jarrow make very good points

 

by playing the "racist" "sexist" "misogynist" card......

 

Hell yeah. I can buy all dakimuras i want

 

You can only become happier in a broken family, after all that's a starting point.
While in a poor, but happy family, your starting point for happiness is already very high, it's more probable that you become sad.
Like comparing a student with 90% trying to become better vs a student with 40% trying to become better.

 

A structured debate isn't about lying per se, it's about acting. You need to cloak yourself in the persona of your faction, then believe in yourself unconditionally for those few minutes. That'll give you the confidence to project a winning position, regardless of how weak it actually may be in reality. Of course, don't get lost in the role, either. : )

 

yeah... the satisfaction really does the trick...

 

i'll be mindful to not get immeresed that much.

 

You know the common phrase "Money can't buy happiness"? Toss it out of your head now and step on that idea repeatedly, nothing but lies!

- Money equals to social mobility. You have more access to opportunities. Whether if it is education/job/housing related, you can afford moving to anywhere that best fit your need.
- Money is a safety net. If something unexpected happen (such as a car accident), you have the resources to deal / lessen the impact. An accident in a poor family could have permanent compounding negative effect
- No negative stigma associated to being poor. Social status is kind of a big deal in western society. People will treat you differently depending on how you dress or whatever social class. If you are growing up in a poor neighborhood, expect to be stigmatized for the rest of the live.

If all else fails, just say this: You can afford a family councilor to fix your broken family.

 

I won’t go into the details of the topic at hand but rather the art of debating...
Debating is not really presenting your own views or personal believes but rather to make the best out of the cards given to you. It’s like a professional businessman and you have to present the topic in such a way that the other person becomes convinced enough to but it.
Like selling a comb to a bald man

So by now you must’ve gotten quite a few points which are the strengths of your position, next find the weaknesses of your opponent’s viewpoints. Present the two is a concise way. Always try to use real life’s examples wherever possible. And lastly give the audience a chance to cross question you

 

Also be prepared for some of the arguments he/she may make like being rich doesn't make you happy or being rich means you are hollow or things like that, you can say that you never said or believed in those things, and that having money just means you have more freedom to do things and that while your family situation is bad, it has nothing to do with money and it can get better or things like that or you can just go full fuck the world and say that family and relationships means less and less in our liquid modernity (cite Bauman) and that "Happy family" or "broken family" is but a fleeting moment while money is a solid Pilar in which you can build healthy interactions around, while everyone will look at you like you are crazy, I think your teacher will like it haha

 

• Comfortable lifestyle

Because the family is rich, they are more or less guaranteed to be living in a comfortable house. Depending on the level of wealth, they may have multiple houses. Additionally, family members have own items (such as clothing or vehicles) from high end brands. The family members, unlike those of a poor family, never need to worry about basic necessities.
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• Higher status in society

You may have seen in novels, but people tend to try to curry favor with the wealthy and/or strong. In this case, the wealth of the family gives the family members a higher status in society, allowing them to more easily obtain allies/friends. Some people will be biased against poor people, who are unable to provide much benefits, but it's much less likely for such bias to exist against richer people​

• Less conflicts due to lack of money

In a poor family, even if the family was very close at some point, when the situation becomes very dire, arguments due to lack of basic necessities or lack of ability to provide such necessities may arise. Such a situation is less likely to occur among a rich family. Rather, they would be fighting for inheritance.​

• Higher security and health

Unlike a poor family, a rich family is more likely to live in a nice neighborhood. A poor family is more likely situated in "the slums," which generally houses many unsavory individuals (such as drug dealers, hoodlums, etc.). Living by such individuals may be dangerous, especially if a fight breaks out between two gangs; bystanders may be killed in such fights. Additionally, the rich family will likely be living in an area with a higher level of cleanliness, which would imply less disease. The rich family would also have better access to healthier foods (and may possibly have a chef that prepares such meals for them). The poor family, in the modern day, may only be able to buy fast food (since it is likely that all adults in the family are working long hours), which is fattening and may not provide all the necessary nutrients. ​

• Money can buy whatever you want, more or less

A child from a poor family cannot afford the toy that they see in a store, but a child from a rich family likely can afford whatever toys, games, etc. that they want. There is little that they cannot obtain with money. Even friends can be bought with money. If a child really desires parental love, they could hire an actor to pretend to be their parent.​

• The rich can easily get richer

Imagine depositing money into a savings account. 1% of a million is much larger than 1% of 100. The rich family may not even need to work, and the money they already have may be enough to make more money. Additionally, the rich family can more easily invest in the stock market. A loss of money in the stock market is not as big a deal as it would be for a poor family.​

Eh. I can't really think of more. (Or at least, I'm too lazy to.) I think you need to look at the situation with less emotional attachment. An orphan with a lot of money is still going to live a better life than a close, poor family.

Also, I would recommend creating counterpoints to points that you believe the other side will make.

 

that's another way to shut em up

 

This is an interesting and unique point, but I would NEVER use it in a discussion. First of all, anyone who hears it WILL consider you a "sociopathic as$hole". 3, 4 more years with the same class that thinks you're dog poo? Just no. Sometimes winning the battle loses the war, and even some truths in thsi case may not work because teachers are humans too and follow the same principles as everyone. Do a socially unacceptable thing (bring a festering and starved dog to prove your point, for example) and you will lose much more than just a mark, because everyone will think that you fucked your dog up "just to win a debate".

 

If he does that he loses the argument, the fact that he goes to all of this trouble because of jealously of a poor but happy family already means he lost