Discussion Harems are a lie. I should never think a Harem can be good.

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by Hoshiandme, Mar 9, 2019.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Hoshiandme

    Hoshiandme A Wandering Star Who Watches From Afar

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2016
    Messages:
    709
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Reading List:
    Link
    Let’s disscuss about harems. Or maybe this is a rant, but I seriously didn’t think harems were THAT bad. Yes it’s cliche and gets annoying, but blah, it’s just fan service and heavy implications on sex and other stuff.

    But I recently read a novel, where the members of said harem were actually not one dimensional bimbos.
    And I actually had the thought, “Wow. This isn’t such a bad harem.”
    And as I kept reading, and the MC finally chose and decided to be with a girl, and the harem was still lasting because the girls are thirsty ass sluts.
    It made me rethink my whole thought process.
    Harems are so fucking gross. It is so fucking disgusting.
    And I kind of hate myself for thinking it was a “good” harem. And the girls actually had character. But after reading it. I can confidently say, their so called character is disgusting.
    1. The MC has a girlfriend.
    2. MC is in a loving committed relationship.
    3. MC has DENIED AND TOLD THEM NO SO MANY TIMES.
    4. And these girls are still trying to hop on him. And they are ignoring everything.
    5. Their ignoring his feelings.
    6. Their ignoring his girlfriends feelings.
    7. And they just keep pushing the crap ass feelings onto him. It so fucking gross.
    8. The gross thing is that since they stayed as friends even though the MC is rejecting their love, he’s still being friends with them because he needs and likes their strength.
    9. He’s slowly over time being nicer to them since they are getting closer as friends.
    10. AND THIS SHIT IS JUST BLURRING EVERYTHING.
    11. I fucking hate harems. There can never be a good harem. Like holy shit.
    12. I also hate novels with harems because it makes the MC have no good friends.
    13. If every “friend” the MC has in his group is a thirsty ass hoe who’s trying real hard to jump him. Than you can’t really be a good friend.
    14. Harem MCs always have no good friend. WHY CANT YOU JUST GIVE THEM SOMEONE COOL TO BE FRIENDS WITH HOLY SHIT.
    15. Everyone in MCs group a girl. And a girl in a group in a harem novel makes her a harem member.

    So, blah. I guess this was more a rant. Gosh harems suck.
    What makes a harem good, I’m curious? Harems are so fucking bad, unless you want a lewd novel than everywhere else, a harem is fucking bad.
     
    Devon, Mnotia, Shio and 12 others like this.
  2. anhrefn

    anhrefn [NTR Sect Leader]       [True Ancestor]

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2015
    Messages:
    3,213
    Likes Received:
    7,168
    Reading List:
    Link
    name?
     
    kenar and EmEm like this.
  3. GrimReeFer

    GrimReeFer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2016
    Messages:
    315
    Likes Received:
    191
    Reading List:
    Link
    Harems need Lemons, otherwise they are just bad.

    but women in real life get thirsty for men with girlfriends, so you know, just how it is. thirsty people everywhere.
     
    readerz, MaskMe and prongsjiisan like this.
  4. Delirious

    Delirious [Code of conduct]

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    Messages:
    1,262
    Likes Received:
    1,859
    Reading List:
    Link
    You know what else is so fucking bad? Your shitty opinion.
     
  5. livorino

    livorino Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2016
    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    504
    Reading List:
    Link
    That's Haram
     
    UDI and Am I Un-Dead Yet like this.
  6. DocB

    DocB "I see you, little mouse! Run along"

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2015
    Messages:
    3,573
    Likes Received:
    8,110
    Reading List:
    Link
    OP TL: DR
    love relationship must be monogamous, because reasons
    threesomes are a myth, no two women can get along in real live
     
    kotoni, kenar, blaze27 and 5 others like this.
  7. Lord Luc

    Lord Luc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2015
    Messages:
    232
    Likes Received:
    231
    Reading List:
    Link
    What you're reading is fiction.
     
  8. Refan25

    Refan25 [The one on the back ground]

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2018
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    1,952
    Reading List:
    Link
    Too long:blobdrool:...(Said the manatee that reads light novel like it's just breathing):blobsleeping:
     
    kenar and CosmicInsomniac like this.
  9. GH111

    GH111 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2017
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    23
    Reading List:
    Link
    Don't know what story you are ranting over, but I fully agree with the sentiment.
     
    Devon, Mnotia, blaze27 and 5 others like this.
  10. I Eat Monsanto

    I Eat Monsanto He who courts death

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    Messages:
    2,273
    Likes Received:
    2,384
    Reading List:
    Link
    Welcome to the club brother
     
    Devon and Hoshiandme like this.
  11. Goblin Sleuth

    Goblin Sleuth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1,849
    Likes Received:
    2,513
    Reading List:
    Link
    So what do you think of novels with literal harems though? I mean the example you gave is the pretty classic old school anime/manga definition of a harem. One guy or girl, who is being romantically pursued by multiple partners. The evolved form a love triangle basically.

    The more literal definition would be a guy or girl who is romantically involved openly and seriously with multiple romantic partners. So a harem that has actual polygamy. A definition which has become a lot more common lately with the heighten popularity of isekai, and xianxia/wuxia novels.
     
    King0Mik, kenar, Hoshiandme and 2 others like this.
  12. Miserys_End

    Miserys_End 「Lv1 Pretend Person」I'm the preson i pretend to be

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2017
    Messages:
    4,011
    Likes Received:
    5,928
    Reading List:
    Link
    Lots of bad harem writing authors that self insert because it's their dream or what not. It's a typical fantasy, and just like there are many novels about the MC being OP as fuck, there are many where the MC is some kind of sex God and all the supporting female cast can't help but throw themselves at the MC. This is not an issue with the subject. It is an issue with the author giving no fucks about realistic expectations and writing yet another inane harem fantasy.
     
    Devon, Mnotia, King0Mik and 1 other person like this.
  13. Astaroth

    Astaroth empty

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2015
    Messages:
    5,393
    Likes Received:
    5,255
    Reading List:
    Link
    blablabla


    Anyway, I generally don't like harem novels cause they tend to be shit. But just like in this example here, that doesn't have to do with harem per se.

    For example, this isn't even a real harem novel in my opinion since there's a one true pairing or w/e and a bunch of "hanger-on" girls.

    A "real" harem would be like in Mushoku Tensei, Immortal Executioner, Great Demon King, etc.
     
    Mnotia, King0Mik, kenar and 1 other person like this.
  14. I Eat Monsanto

    I Eat Monsanto He who courts death

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    Messages:
    2,273
    Likes Received:
    2,384
    Reading List:
    Link
    Yea, since when is fidelity important in a romantic relationship
     
  15. Fossil

    Fossil 「Spooky」「Scary」「Skeleton」

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2016
    Messages:
    3,566
    Likes Received:
    19,341
    Reading List:
    Link
    Another one? I thought these phased out and turned into QI rants.
     
    King0Mik, kenar and DocB like this.
  16. UnknownSaint171

    UnknownSaint171 To Something Sounds Cooler

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2016
    Messages:
    1,792
    Likes Received:
    785
    Reading List:
    Link
    I remember a time when Harems where cool but now it’s always Polygamy
     
    Devon, Mnotia and Hoshiandme like this.
  17. MrAconter

    MrAconter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2018
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    148
    Reading List:
    Link
    Well you don´t have to be so into that kind of analysis, HAREM is FAN SERVICE that´s it!
    It is meant to draw man into it since they secretly would enjoy it or at least for a time.
    So don´t think to much about just embrace it and enjoy it while it last :blobnom: :blobwhistle:
     
    prongsjiisan likes this.
  18. fuzor100

    fuzor100 Standby mode...

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2016
    Messages:
    2,096
    Likes Received:
    5,158
    Reading List:
    Link
    MC with girlfriend? What about harem story with dense MC who doesn't have a girlfriend?
     
  19. DocB

    DocB "I see you, little mouse! Run along"

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2015
    Messages:
    3,573
    Likes Received:
    8,110
    Reading List:
    Link
    you realize that romance in a relationship is a concept with less than 200 years while civilized humans existed for about 12000 years and homo sapiens for 350000 years
     
    prongsjiisan and anon like this.
  20. zhainan2157

    zhainan2157 『Villager No.2157』『Kawaii Connoisseur』

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2016
    Messages:
    1,144
    Likes Received:
    1,744
    Reading List:
    Link
    The only possible way I can imagine a threesome is that the two girls are bisexual and romantically attracted to each other as well as the guy.
     
    Chryseum likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.