Spoiler You’ve Got Mail: A Cautionary Tale

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  1. vasiliassy

    vasiliassy Lol hehe

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    Do ML know about MC's thoughts of suicide in the first chapter, in the end?
    How ML forget Mr. Lu? By eating too many MC's vinegar?
     
  2. Celissiye

    Celissiye Well-Known Member

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    There are hints about it by the MC, like showing the grave he picked out, here and there, but he doesn't mention it to ML until ch. 103. Where the ML is like "fuck why" and MC explains. Overall, it isn't a huge theme in the story, but like a sad little extra theme, more important in first half compared to second. I mean, we know by the time the MC has secured pengpeng and found the peng society he already found a new reason to live. He isn't considering suicide within the story anymore, it's literally just at the beginning. (also disclaimer I MTLed so I might not have caught all the subtleties q-q).

    Eating vinegar happens a lot but is only a sign of love, not really the reason why he falls in love.

    ML's care for Mr. Lu slowly trickles away. It doesn't happen all at once. Basically it plays out that Lu isn't as great as he thought, is manipulative and scheming, not entirely true in love and also not receptive enough. Thus, MC's cuteness and personality worms his way into his heart. I'd say ML goes 100% for MC a while before Mr. Lu's supposed wedding.
     
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  3. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    This is what makes the story great, ML gradually fell out of love, i mean, mr lu is pretty much his perfect first love that he put on a pedestal. A Celestial on earth etc. But that's because he doesn't have love rival and mr lu believes his position is unshakeable. But come MC and his mighty chrysanthemum + sexy reactions. (Not to mention he's set for marriage) so yeahhh

    I also find it refreshing that MC is casual and realistic about their relationship. He doesn't dare dream being the phoenix and just want to be an ordinary frog. Ofc ML being sweet with huge dic helped his feeling swayed. But he also have a person in his heart and didn't discard him after nights with ML. His focus on food and his casualness make some hilarious plot points lololol
     
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    cirrus74 Well-Known Member

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    *nod nod* I agree with you despite my earlier outburst at ML running back when Mr. Lu breaks his leg. After all, it would be somewhat inconstant of ML if he suddenly drops Mr Lu after allegedly being in love with him for years. What I liked was the fact that ML does eventually get over his blindness wrt to Mr. Lu and sees him for what he is. (Though based on the convo between the guards, Heizi and head subordinate ManYue (I can’t remember if this name is correct), originally Mr. Lu had no bad intentions and was happy with a small position but later got an inflated head. MY also said that ML despite his professed love for Mr Lu, never really loved him because ‘if the general really wanted someone, do you think he would fail to obtain them?’ Or something of the sort)

    But later on we see that ML can be vicious - after ruining Mr Lu’s wedding, he drags him along with him, letting him think that he still loves him while he’s actually chasing after MC (much vomiting of blood after finding that MC left during the wedding).

    The thing about Mr. Lu is that he wants to get married to that Yue family, which is fairly wealthy and powerful so that he has backing, AND also wants to hang on to the general >__> what is this asshole. He tells him that he’ll come back to him after he has a child (well you can just get lost).

    Also, throughout the novel they refer to tintins as kunpeng which somehow MTLs as ‘pengpeng’ (sounds cute).
     
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    What happens after mc leaves and what happens to Mr. lu ?
     
  6. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    I use pengpeng cuz it's cute~

    Ikr! I haven't mtled till the end cuz i mtl cub raising association now but damn i can't wait for the TL chapters!!
    This novel is extremely addictive but i hate that danmeila etc always hve porn ads. Q.Q

    When i feel hurt that ML disregard MC for mr lu thats when i knew i was invested in this novel lmao but luckily mc's nonchalant attitude makes up for it
    And i love how the ML in this novel always always try to douse MC with vinegar (i was like wtf u doin ml stahp hurtin my bae) he's the one ends up coughing blood lmao
     
  7. vasiliassy

    vasiliassy Lol hehe

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    I like that too!
    Well we know MC is 40 yo, he was considered to be calm and realistic with many condition. Can't be helped too he was alone virgin in 40 years old till he was dense XD
    And he was not live in city so...
    It was ML who maybe didn't think that far till in the middle of chapter.
    If he understand correctly MC condition then he must use other way, well we know ML can gather information quickly. Maybe author just want to do that so makes ML poor and not like mainstream ML.
    Oh like Jinshi in Kusuriya novel!

    You can use light browser that can eraser/block adv and can mTL too.
     
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    Ahh, I stopped MTL-ing that one a while back cuz it got kinda boring, despite being very fluffy. I wrote quite a lot of spoilers in the thread lol.

    I’m about 2/3 through this novel but can only read it at home due to the gratuitous porn ads on the top AND bottom lol and it moves down the page when you scroll. Pity it’s not on sto.cx, which doesn’t have all that rubbish.

    Lol, he coughed so much blood when MC left, he was badly injured.

    Where I’m at now MC has gone to the capital and attended a KunPeng gathering... where ML went and disguised himself as someone else and MC was attracted to him lol. ML was super angry and jealous (at himself! :ROFLMAO:). Eating his own vinegar, and saying things like ‘but the one he likes is Ping Yifan!’ to ManYue. (Ping Yifan = you, you dumbass general)
     
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    That's another part I liked.

    ML gets all upset and obviously goes after MC when he runs away...but not directly.

    First off, MC leaves with some of ML's servants so there isn't really much danger per se. (Typically in run of the mill stories at this point ML would furiously catch MC, prevent him from running again, maybe fuck him and then say I love you, to which MC would be happy. Thank goodness not this story.)
    Here ML is afraid of scaring MC, and MC himself is in denial/afraid of having a long-term partner again and doubts that ML would never leave him. Thus, ML disguises himself as Ping Yifan (whatever the name), which MC then is attracted to. At some point MC realizes it's still ML because he's never been attracted/felt comfortable around someone so quickly before. He eventually forces ML to drink truth serum, so that they can both make promises and talk to each other without fear of being deceived. At this point a confession occurs.
    TBH I thought since the story didn't have wuxia elements like truth serum and face masks for ML to disguise himself it was a little cheesy, but at the same time much better than ML just swooping in all angry, so I'd say I liked it a lot!

    As for Mr. Lu. ML was planning to provide for him at least since he cared so long in the past, but treats him pretty heartlessly from then on. For example, while he's disguised as Ping Yifan with MC, one of his guards/soldiers disguises as ML(Guan himself) and pretends to accompany Mr. Lu.
    Mr. Lu insists on seeing ML near the end of the book, in which he cries and regrets, but still is greedy. At this point Mr. Lu also had a hand in some pretty shady business that ML had to go to a lot of lengths to resolve. Thus, it's already too late, Lu even slaps the MC to add oil to the fire, thus ML casts him out with enough supplies to get a small place somewhere, then tells him to provide for himself for the rest of his life. Basically he's 100% out of the picture.
     
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    I've wanted to use this line for a really long time.. Mr Lu had eyes but could not see Mt tai (I'm hoping my guess on when it's used is right lol)
     
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    please tell this little potato more spoilers!
     
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    can someone link the raws. The site I'm reading at only has half the chapters.
     
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    So was there any obvious points when MC started to fall in love with ML? And what happened after the confession, as in did they actually become a couple or nah?
     
  15. Chiaroscuro

    Chiaroscuro Your Favourite Family Disappointment

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    From what i renembered actually they both fall in lust first. Like their body match is 101%. From the first part, MC was all teasing and being a playa but ends up being doused by his own vinegar. Despite being 40yo virgin MC is very realistic so at first he just treated it as one night stand/friend with benefits situation. But as ML falls for MC's quirkiness, MC also slowly fall for him (cuz despite being a shit he's actually good... In bed and sometimes in attitude lol). Unluckily Mr. Lu (ML's first love/old flame) was stirring shit up so MC ran.

    This second phase is where basically they fall in love to each other again as they met in a gathering (basically like grindr gathering for gentlemen) and mc was all for ML and ML being jelly for himself (since he disguised himself) but MC realise ML is ML so they talked and confessed to each other (COMMUNICATION FINALLY A NOVEL WHO DID IT RIGHT OMG) and have shitton of gratuitous pornhub-worthy sex.

    (After that there's plot like Mr.Lu was stirring shit but ML ain't having it so he kicked mr. Lu to the curb.) But yeah happy lover ending.
     
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    Found out ML’s age!

    ML met Mr. Lu when he was 10 and Mr. Lu was 17.

    Mr. Lu is 36 while MC is 39.

    So when MC is 39, ML is 29. They have a 10 year difference

    Edit: in one chapter, author says the ML is 27. But if you did the math, ML is 29. So take with a grain a salt the ML’s age. He somewhere between 27-29, but one thing for sure, is that he’s under 30 but above 25.
     
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    xblkdragonx Well-Known Member

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    i actually really liked the ML for this novel.

    Basically, he’s always been self-sufficient and smart. Even as a child, his parents let him do his own thing. They loved him as parents would, but they never babied him. He was treated as an adult. One reason why he fell in love with Mr. Lu, it was bc Mr. Lu once treated him as a child, he babied him, and ML craved the feeling of ppl caring about him. Even though once Mr. Lu got to know ML, he shed that caring teacher persona and instead leaned on ML’s shoulder, ML didn’t mind. ML knew he was strong enough. He could easily protect what he considered precious. And Mr. Lu was more than happy to live under the ML’s protection and in a golden cage.

    When ML falls in love with MC, there was a line the deputy general told him. MC isn’t mr. Lu. You can try locking him in a golden cage, but MC doesn’t need your protection.

    ML heart warms when he sees MC worry about him. He’s frantic about his health. Even though MC knows ML is strong and doesn’t need his protection, he still worries. And that worry makes ML love him all the more. ML says he can’t let MC go. If MC leaves him, there will be no one else in the world that would be frantic for him. (ML acknowledges his parents and friends care for him too, but not in the same way Mc does).

    Anyway, ML says he doesn’t want to lock MC in a golden cage, but he will block all the disaster or political schemes that will harm MC. ML is already doting before he realizes he loves MC, but once he does realize, he’s suuuuuuper sweet to Mc. He basically worships the ground MC walks on.

    As a side note, ML is a bit sticky and possessive, following MC to whatever city he goes, but ML gives MC a loooot of freedom. The two aren’t glued to each other’s hips. ML may eat vinegar often, but he doesn’t rashly act out on his jealousy (except when he ripped the picture of a huge dick lol).

    Basically, the ML has the cliche trope of possessiveness, but it’s actually done right? The ML doesn't feel like he's suffocating or infantilizing the MC. He isn't overbearing, and even though the MC was initially used as a substitute for Mr. Lu, ML was respectful and affectionate towards MC.

    It was explained that even though ML often found lovers to be substitutes, when he’s in a love affair with them, he treats them as he would treat Mr. Lu if Mr. Lu had returned his affections. This is why despite MC often angering ML with his callous obliviousness, the ML never really talks back or physically harms him. Then later, ML just really liked MC and wanted MC to like him back.

    The ML sometimes bullies MC during sex, but their sex is always consensual and never crosses the MC’s bottom line. The ML always makes sure to take care of Mc afterwards too (cleaning him, tucking him back into bed, make sure he has food when he wakes up, etc). And this is even before they become official lovers.
     
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    LaDyViL New Member Staff Member

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    I remember a line describing ML like a thirsty man founding water during the time he was alienating MC so MC won't be dragged into the political machinations and power play going on and he couldn't hold himself back to finally go and see MC while MC was asleep just simply wanting to watch him.

    That one's pretty heartbreaking. Not the ripping the pictures, but that MC broke down from it. Still, it was pretty sweet when ML frantically tried to make up for it by going and getting him new pictures inatead even with his jealousy lol
    LOL he really likes feeding MC.
     
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    Awwww, yeah you’re right. When MC broke down after that, it was sad. At this point, MC is still thinking this love affair of theirs is short term. ML will eventually leave him, and as a lonely man, only his rattan of dick pics can accompany him until death. I was like poor MC.

    Lol the ending though. The ML gives MC an entire dowry worth of dick pics bc he knew MC liked them.

    A side note, even through MTL I thought it was very poetic that MC was described as, “a moon’s reflection”. If ML can’t have the moon (Mr. Lu), then he can at least have its reflection. I believe there’s a saying(?) where a moon’s reflection is found on the water’s surface. To go with the line that ML is a thirsty man, while ML thought he was only looking at the moon’s reflection what he really had and wanted was the water where the reflection was found on- something essential for him to continue living.
     
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    LaDyViL New Member Staff Member

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    :notlikeblob:What are we doing getting philosophical on porn...... But it's good porn :blobnosebleed:
     
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