Code Geass Discussion

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  1. CodeTime

    CodeTime [Void Emperor of Time]

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    Spoilers below so read at your own risk

    So just finished the new movie and it was quite good to be honest. Not quite as good as the full seasons or the akito the exile series but still pretty good. I do like the scene where Suzaku is angry at Lelouch being alive since I feel like Suzako is the author who wanted Lelouch to be dead but C.C (the fans), forcefully brought him back, so the author wanted this line to express how he felt probably. One thing i feel that was missed is showing Lelouchs strategical capabilities. It would have been interesting for him and the princess to fight long distance battles before moving in for the final battle. One thing I didnt quite catch was the purpose of the gathered genius children at that one scene, though it maybe for the future beyond this movie.
    Well, those are my thoughts for the moment, what are yours?
     
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  2. DiabolicGod

    DiabolicGod Well-known lazy Member

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    huh, I was looking for the newest movie and I found lelouch of the resurrection, but no streaming link on my usual website...
    where did you watch it?
     
  3. JPGr

    JPGr Active Member

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    Haven't watched the movies yet, but lelouch never died in the series. The original ending showed lelouch driving the cart CC was on, but an edited version was later shown where it didn't show him. Or so I recall.
     
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    Why they killed Lelouch and kept Suzaku?
     
  5. Sparteh

    Sparteh The Devourer

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    I have also seen the movie. Yes, it wasn't as good as original series, but I disagree that it was worse than akito. Honestly, CG is one of the best if not the best anime of all time. It is hard to reach that level. It was more of the cash grab than anything else. You can't really complain about strategical capabilities. It was a movie after all. Screen time is limited and they had to stuff a lot of stuff in it. From what I remember, there there at least 2 times when it happened in the movie. As for the children, your theory might be correct. I think authors promised more of CG. The problem is that it will lack Lelouch and C.C. Code Geass without them is the same as Steins;Gate without Okabe and Kurisu... Its just not the same because they are Code Geass.
     
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    chencking [Daolord Grammar Nazi]

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    I was happy they tried to answer the fans' expectations, but there were a few moments where I felt they compromised the movie in doing so. That left me really ambivalent. Specifically:

    1. L.L. made me grin and mentally run through all the speculations for C.C.'s name that had the corresponding initials. But then I thought back to V.V. and realized his last name was Britannia. So the scriptwriters trolled us making that reference.

    2. Lelouch breaking down after the first rewind. It was nice seeing C.C.'s interaction with him, but since when does Lelouch only have one plan? He made 30+ plans just for walking to a shrine. I thought they might use this as a foreshadow that he's only partly Lelouch, but still...

    3. Suzaku handing over Zero so easily. What happened to his resolution and devotion from season 2? This was his and Euphemia's dream, but he gave it up so easily. Seeing Lelouch become Zero again was nice, but seeing Suzaku folding was sad.

    4. Lancelot and Guren Nishiki appeared, but Suzaku and Kallen didn't rampage. Those two were basically the aces for the world war.

    Don't get me wrong. I loved the movie. But it's only a 8/10 for me because these moments made me really ambivalent. A lot of what I wanted to see happen happened, but those weren't the characters I loved.
     
  7. NinjapowerMS

    NinjapowerMS Local man ruins everything

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    It's not about him being dead, The point is that the series ended with that. I actually love how it can be interpreted both way that he is either alive or death even if he is alive he's basically cut all ties with his family and friends forever which is basically the person named "Lelouch" died. It's beautiful.
    All major conflicts was resolved hence the point of Zero requiem, any conflicts after that is entirely on the shoulders of the next generation. I found it hilarious that Nunnally and the gang couldn't last half a decade before Lelouch has to bail their dumbasses out again.
    Of course I haven't watched the movie.
    It's blatant cash grab but whatever.
     
  8. PotatoZero

    PotatoZero Well-known Potato

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    I can't find it, where?
     
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    chencking [Daolord Grammar Nazi]

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    Honestly, Schneizel probably could have handled it. It's just Nunnally and Suzaku would have been killed.
     
  10. NinjapowerMS

    NinjapowerMS Local man ruins everything

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    Doubt it either of them could have been killed.
    Order of the black knight basically have the strongest military power as well as technology advancement by the end of the anime series the rest of the countries were crippled by the end of the war. Not to mention the numerous amount of connections they had with talented people who are cream of the crop to make the peaceful era work. If it's going to fail at least it wouldn't go downhill that fast that it wouldn't last half a decade.
    If you're talking about the new movie, again, I haven't watched it YET. So I really have no idea what kind of nonsense they pulled out of their butt cheeks to magically make a brand new character appear out of nowhere to stir the pot.
    So you're discussing with the wrong guy, my dude.
     
  11. CodeTime

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    Its not that the new movie is much worse than akito, but due to akito the exiled being a planned series for 5 movies, the quality seemed better with more time to explain everything and put effort towards specific scenes. My main example being the fights in akito the exiled are quite spectacular, especially when akito enters his cursed "die" phase.

    As for Lelouch and C.C being gone, I feel that it's not as bad of an idea as it might seem at first. At least, I would rather them exiting the scene as they are now rather than making them prolong their stay and ruin them. I would hope that they do at least make them appear in future movies as like mentors or emperors in the shadows, only appearing at critical points.
     
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    chencking [Daolord Grammar Nazi]

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    lol the basic premise is
    Nunnally + Suzaku are kidnapped while on a publicity visit with no knightmares escorting them.
    So yes, they would have died.
     
  13. Sparteh

    Sparteh The Devourer

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    I think that Code Geass should have been left alone in the first place. It already has cult following and is a legend in anime community.
    The thing is that it was characters what drove CG and made it that good, especially Lelouch, who is by many considered to be one of the best if not the best anime characters ever. If you get rid of him, there is not that much left.
     
  14. CodeTime

    CodeTime [Void Emperor of Time]

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    Apparently the shot of lelouch apparently being alive riding on the carriage was made by a fan and people got confused. I read before that the author repeatedly said Lelouch was dead in interviews...but I guess the pressure of the fans got to them (and the sight of money) and they decided to go ahead with the fan made speculations on how lelouch would have recieved the code from charles and would be immortal and everything