Discussion Updated Here comes another wave of censorship

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  1. SummerMascot

    SummerMascot Well-Known Member

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    @nonononononono
    Finally thank the stars, just to let you know, the most hated novel (with 7,000+ chapters) https://www.novelupdates.com/series/beauty-and-the-bodyguard/ has been hit by the Qidian censorship "异术超能" (Supernatural Powers) crackdown.

    Basically, MC is still virgin for 7,000+ chapters although he has 2 to 3 digits worth of harem. So let's keep guessing what's the reason for the blanket ban.

    Meanwhile, this crappy novel https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-sacred-ruins/ which featured a lecherous MC and plenty of verbal expletives has escaped unscathed.
     
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  2. Vanidor

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    Perhaps you meant to say 'so far has escaped unscathed', entirely possibly any title can still get hit it seems.
     
  3. Miserys_End

    Miserys_End 「Lv1 Pretend Person」I'm the preson i pretend to be

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    Eh, morals, just like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Morals are just a general consensus of rules the vast majority have agreed on. Here in the states we have a puritan background that shunned most open displays of affection and promoted heavy clothing to block immoral behavior.

    Just look at the bathing suits fro. The 40's and 50's, even then men wore one piece bathing suits and the ladies covered the majority of their arms and legs. Anymore we have dudes running around in little more then a cocksling and the ladies wear just as little. Another good example is George Carlin's seven dirty words from the 70's.

    tl:dr everything changes, even morals. So saying something is immoral is little better then a fad.
     
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    Sorry bud. But I in no way implied America is worse than china.
    China is pretty bad. I was mostly mocking the anti-Christian propaganda going on in america. And the fact our morals are going down the drain. But we are still the best country to live in.
     
  5. Sabruness

    Sabruness Cultured Yuri Connoisseur

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    On the matter of women's swimsuits, you're way off. While the modern bikini didnt really take off in legitimacy until the 60's or so, swimsuits as early as the 30's were getting pretty revealing (for those days at least. They'd be considered modest today)

    I know this is offtopic but the threads already gone off topic so what.
     
  6. Miserys_End

    Miserys_End 「Lv1 Pretend Person」I'm the preson i pretend to be

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    It depends on where you are in the world. Also seems my estimation was off of when the shift to less fabric happened. It started to change over in early 1900 *shrug* doesnt change the main point of my statement, just the time frame it happened.
     
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  7. Green Apple

    Green Apple Actually I'm secretly an orange.

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    Of course America isn't worse than that. But will it ever stay that way?
    West may already be on the road to the same absurd condition like in China, but in a roundabout way.

    USA suffer from SJW and private owned finance, media, social networks which already take sides, smear and ban for political reasons.
    Mostly it is Right conservatives getting banned from Twitter\facebook\youtube and even PAYPAL.
    If it is not censorship to support Left then I don't know what it is.

    Then take GB for example. This article is alarming to say the least. https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/01/man-...ace-police-face-recognition-software-8425143/
    I saw a claim, that the amount of CCTV in GB is second only to China. Imagine the power one would have if he were to use such system for his personal gain.

    Everything China wants may be implemented in other countries, but in a concealed way. Chinese are just being blunt cause they are sure to retain their seat in power.
     
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  8. Sabruness

    Sabruness Cultured Yuri Connoisseur

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    i'm surprised the mods and admins havent jumped in with the wild veering into political type topics.
     
  9. Miserys_End

    Miserys_End 「Lv1 Pretend Person」I'm the preson i pretend to be

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    Governments by definition want control over their designated population. The only thing truely holding back more stringent controls is said populations tendency to react violently when restrictions become to stringent. That level of regulations will greatly vary due to the local culture, ethics, or morality, but I the end if they push to far the general population will revolt.
     
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    null Procrastinate Lv MAX

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    This is rough translation :blobpeek:

    IT Home (chinese news site) May 21th yesterday news

    Shanghai CAC to handle "pornographic and illegal" publications, release city news situation, in response to reviewed works under the banner of Qidian site who cant fulfill obligation to supervise author from distributing illegal and lawbreaking stuff, propagating toward mistake. Going to question people behind company about vulgar pornographic novel problem, ordering to immediately investigate and correct, comprehensive and in-depth rectification. Qidian prominent issue "metropolis" channel within "superpower" category , "girl net" website "n dimension" (https://www.qdmm.com/ncy) suspended 1 week from updating between May 21st to May 28th.

    :sushi_hide:
     
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    Why have the government do it when you can just let private companies do it instead (while lobbying the government to avoid regulating their actions) and hide behind the excuse of a "free market"?

    Social forces in the United States uphold massive amounts of segregation; when you can only live in a certain area, your access to things like affordable food, clean water, employment, transportation, education, etc... all become restricted along with it. Just because the system isn't formalized or government controlled doesn't make it any less insidious; if anything, the fact that it's more nebulous and hidden behind generally unquestioned ideological assumptions means people are more likely to deny that it exists at all.
     
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    It feels like two major factors are combining to make this happen. The first is that SARFT has been cracking down on all sorts of things in the film and television world. It got so bad that perfectly innocent words like "Khitan" were censored and different words had to be used; the same with anything that even hinted at sex appeal. Until the last couple of years, the web novel world was largely ignored by SARFT, but it seems that this is changing so these will be subject to the same kinds of restrictions.

    The second factor is that I suspect that most of what's being censored is collateral damage to what SARFT's true target. What really gets SARFT's goat is anything that criticizes the government or promotes disharmony. And these are very common in the “都市” or Metropolitan genre. It's common for these books to have content about political corruption, usually at the urban level. Even more pertinent, there is an entire subgenre about climbing the ranks of the CCP, and I've seen writers in this subgenre warning their readers that their books can be cracked down upon.
     
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    Sure, but I'm not sure that it makes any difference. The CAC still effectively acting as a surrogate for SARFT and it's likely acting according to the same principles. I imagine that the CCP's propaganda divisions have just been reshuffled and that internet-based media are getting more focus because of that.
     
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    I think N-dimension might be the world-hopping genre that is plagued with BL.
     
  16. Robbini

    Robbini Logical? Illogical? Random? Or Just Unique?

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    Let me get this straight. Someone in an earlier post mentioned they're cracking down on modern day novels, because they wrote in an actual figure in a BL novel ?

    Doesn't that remind you somewhat of them banning Winnie the Pooh for being compared to Xi Jinping ?
     
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    It's just not qidian, yesterday two novels that I was reading in xxys disappeared, one was a somewhat sexy novel, the other did not have any sexual scene as fas I read.
    I read their author's help and this was the third point:

    No matter the name of the article, the introduction, the name of the chapter, or the content of the text, it may not involve H, swearing, promoting obscenity, superstition or rendering violence, endangering the society, not introducing political propaganda, and not showing the names of prominent political figures.
     
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    Censorship is just a method of controlling information that someone, or an organization deems harmful to their agenda.
    The thread carries politcal/government nuance. But ultimately the proponents behind the censorship could just be business related.

    ABC Company that specializes in Adventure, Fantasy, MMORPG stories is losing to competitor companies.
    -Lobbies Government to apply censorship pressure.

    EFG Company that specializes in Romance, Sci-Fi, Sports loses a portion of profits.
    - Government censors romance & sci-fi.

    JKL Company that specializes in Horror, Comedy, Supernatural loses a portion of profits.
    - Government censors Comedy & Supernatural.

    I mean the perspectives already brought in this thread is pretty standard. I mean we can debate over the agenda for why certain genre is censored.
     
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    Westeller Smokin' Sexy Style!! Staff Member

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    It's China. What ABC, EFG and JKL companies? Tencent owns everything. Any competition they have barely qualifies as such.
     
  20. anhrefn

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    maybe the author of sacred ruins has a lot of face
     
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