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Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by CloudySkySadMoon, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. Z__SKULL

    Z__SKULL Well-Known Member

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    well I'd argue what your referencing is an adversary and not necessarily an enemy. And I did say earlier that what I meant when I said enemy was my take on it. nowhere did I say or imply my take on it was the correct or only way.

    Look i understand and also agree with your point of veiw not trying to say your wrong and only im right but from the context of Chinese web novels I dont think "Enemies" should be immune to breaking of taboos especially when the basic concept of these types of novels for the most part boil to beating the shit out of people and or killing them. Its just asinine that the protagonists have to follow rules while the antagonists can do anything with seemingly no Consequences.

    I think i expressed my original intent rather poorly i implied mortal enemy and all this was under the condition of an enemy the was at the extreme spectrum of it and all my posts reflected that. Apologies for the poor representation of that
     
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    It is not "protagonists" that have to follow the rules of society, it is literally everyone. Not following the rules of society gets society to shun you. Sometimes protagonists violate those rules, sometimes NPCs do, either case there are consequences to doing so.

    And in the context of chinese novels you are full of shit. They are chock full of cases where the protagonist is hiding behind the rules of society so that his enemies won't kill him.

    And again, your problem is that you are redefining the word enemy, then falsely applying that definition to characters that explicitly do not use your modified version. When characters in xianxia stories use the word enemy they mean "someone I want to kill" not "someone who I would sacrifice anything to defeat, including my reputation"
     
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    all right, I'm done. I give up . Your right. Apparently it not possible for two people to read and or experience the same thing and come to different conclusions/ opinions.

    Bottem line is an enemy implies a theat and i think theats should be dealt with by any means. Thats not to imply you should go nuclear as the first option but neither should that option not ever not be considered
     
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    Defining a word is not an opinion. And the problem is that you are not acknoledging that characters in a story do not share your definition. When an author writes "X is Y's enemy" he is not using your made up definition. And you are refusing to acknowledge that.

    Especially in light of the specific example of Yellow Mountain from the story called CCG. He absolutely does not share your definition of the word enemy. To him it does not mean "someone who I would sacrifice anything to kill"
     
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    Wow.look i clarified my original intent a couple posts up at #1341 last paragraph. so now you are strawmaning and trying to argue about somthing that was never my original intention. Also yellow mountain Shouldn't even been related to our conversation hence post 1330 and #1331 those posts should have made it abundantly clear that i didn't considered him enemies with the other character
     
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    Discuss novels, not make wars...

    This has got to be the funniest novel I've read around here, discussing too deep on this novel is like trying to win a helicopter race with a magic sword....

    Or was it the other way around?
     
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    Yup definitely a funny novel and hey put a sword on the tip of the canopy and you'll have the best of both worlds
     
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    Definitely one of my favorite lines.
     
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    Why is he waiting? Why not purify everything from the entrance? It's not like the lotus can't reach.
     
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    I wonder how he'll get the right eye from Lady Onion.
     
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    rofl XD

    Also lol at the "exciting" new hobby Senior White got added to the movie for Thrice Reckless to experience ;)
     
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    I'm half expecting him to disguise himself as his opponent.
     
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    I'm somewhat surprised that he didn't try to get the pig to attack Northern River.
     
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    Why would he do that?

    Although both of them are enemies, but they are still friends. The battle between them are just a friendly squabble, not a death match.


    Moreover, a Ninth Stage wouldn't involves itself in a petty quarrel between juniors.
     
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    Never said kill Northern River, just beat up. Also, if the pig cared about that, he probably wouldn't be flirting so shamelessly.
     
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    And I also never said about killing North River.

    And a Ninth Stage beating a newly promoted Sixth Stage is out of question. Its not something a Ninth Stage will do. They don't involve themselves in petty squabbles, especially among juniors.
     
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    You did actually.
    Kidnapping one to force them to marry you and have kids with you is also something that is frowned on to an even greater degree, yet the pig had no problem doing so. There are no limits on what a strong cultivator can or can't do, only what they will or won't do. Well, not unless someone stronger cares enough to do something, which was clearly not going to be the case here.
     
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    Again, you are missing the point.

    First, I was asking why would Copper Trigram asking that pig to hit North River?

    The rivalry between Copper Trigram and North River is just a petty squabling between the two of them. They didn't go at length to defeat each other, and winning or losing doesn't means much.

    Now, tell me, why would Copper Trigram asks that pig to hit North River?

    Second, why would Copper Trigram ask his kidnapper to do something for him?
     
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    They both put quite a lot of effort into that fight, especially Copper Triagram. Still, it was an idle wondering and I really don't feel like debating over it. You want to believe that its something Copper Triagram wouldn't do, even when he actually did it, then you go right ahead. I don't care enough to argue about it.
     
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    This is not a rule, it is a suggestion. We have seen plenty of examples of people ignoring this rule in the past.
    The righteous dao are less likely to outright kill someone of lower realm, but very often have they beaten them up as punishment for seeking death.