Discussion I am starting to hate Japanese novels

Discussion in 'Novel General' started by Darkcrow., Jul 3, 2019.

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  1. Femme Fatale

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    I got into asian novels by way of japanese manga, but when I found novel translations I found that I don't like Japanese novels because it is so....bland and cut and paste text really. Unimaginative. I like CN's though, so long as I stay away from the stupid stuff like harems (though I do like me novels about imperial harems) and stupid overpower MC.
     
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    Vanidor Well-Known Member

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    1 & 4) Most of them are writing for early teen readers and some a bit older/younger, so mostly kids interested in teenage girls.

    2 & 3) They are also writing so that the boy readers feel they could do a better job than the MC. Most of the readers are supposed to say multiple times to themselves "fuck, if I was there I'd know she was interested and I'd go for it" etc.

    Edit: If you don't like the kiddy novels then read some of the more mature ones or read western novels? There's millions of options out there.
     
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    Eh, that's mostly just the bad stories. Japanese, chinese, korean stories all have bad ones. Japanese harem isekai stories are mostly wish fulfilment stories so the plot is whatever convenient for the author. There are good ones of course, it's just hard to find amidst all the half-baked stories here. If you don't want this you should avoid any harem isekai stories in the first place, there are other genres you know.

    I for one, don't really like chinese novels especially the xianxia ones. I found that a lot of chinese fantasy MCs devolve into psychopathic greedy murderers that does whatever he wants while the world hails him as a hero or something. The villains always includes arrogant young lords whom the mc will proceed to beat and humiliate, the harem keeps increasing with girls that are always more beautiful than the others while the new girls don't really have any personality.
     
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    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Let's be honest. You are making Apple to oranges comparisons.
    These Japanese novels from Syosetu are equivalent to fanfiction.
    The quality is obviously poor.
    Most of the good novels are light novels which have been professionally edited and published.
    They read like rough drafts because they are rough drafts
    And you are welcome. I am that cool.
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    P.S. it's Wednesday, read novels on Asianhobbyist.com.
    Cheers!
     
  5. Cnine

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    This blatant black campaign(´-﹏-`;)
    …………
    I really want to TL Kuro no Mao now
     
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    Jojo775 Honorary Algae Knight

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    Welcome to the club. Just don't rant about CN novels next. Everybody does it.
     
  7. oblueknighto

    oblueknighto Blue Person

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    Sounds like you don’t like them. That’s fine. You should move on.
     
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    Ol bugga Carved of stone

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    Worst part has to be the loli's. Most aren't even of age...Like are people actually conscience about who and what they are reading? It could be accounted for child-pornography almost. And in most cases it actually is!
     
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  9. Wujigege

    Wujigege *Christian*SIMP*Comedian

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    Ooooooook
     
  10. Aina Seira

    Aina Seira Princess For Life

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    Simply don't read isekai novels with male MCs, aside from MY Death Flags Show NO Signs of Ending. Avoid also those JP stories that have harem tags
     
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    chillo NUF BioTerrorist

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    well it happent
     
  12. Sabruness

    Sabruness Cultured Yuri Connoisseur

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    the first two of OP's points are the biggest issues with me. JP still too focused on lolis and beta MCs >.>
     
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    Chronos Bee Descendant of Sloth

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    Read Light novels, not Web novels. Problems solved.
    Go to baka-tsuki and start from there.
    Use way back machine to go back to 2013 and see what novels are there from that time period on Baka-tsuki.
    Chances are they are now fully translated or picked up by Yen Press.
     
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  14. FlufflyLittleRabbit

    FlufflyLittleRabbit Fluff...Fluffy....FLUFFYYYYY!

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    I understand how you feel. I mean, It's really disgust me to read about mc around thirty of age lusting naïve young girls or girls stupidly in love just because the guy save them once or super strong that they even okay to share him. There was one time, I read a novel where the mc did it with a fifteen yr old girl and he was only thirteen at that time physically but in mentally he's in early forties in age.

    The novel also portray how girls are easy to get. I would have understand the point of their view if they are in ancient era where they can accept sharing man but agh!. But some of harem-polygamy novel was set in modern time which is really annoying. For example;

    All female character who are beautiful, rich and high I.Q suddenly fell in love with the mc and they are fine to share her man with other women--to think this is modern huh! Who in the right mind to share her man with other women? None! Unless that woman doesn't love the man an only after his money and genes(if you know what I mean).

    But my complaint is not only for the Japanese novel that were translated but also in Chinese novel, they are not much better too. Here's the reason;
    • Brainless rich young master who courts death everyday for small thing which will also led to his family ruin.
    • As I said above, it's not just Japanese novel has this type of story but also in CN.
    • Too much drama where the female heroine usually bullied and fell from the traps of love rival
    • Rape victim became lover
    • Brainless love rival who keep plotting against the heroine
    • protagonist never learn their lesson
    • Protagonist too much blinded for revenge that even a small thing they wouldn't let go
    • Racist
    • plagiarizing
    WHAT I HATE THE MOST ARE THOSE NOVEL THAT CAN DESTROY YOUR BRAIN CELLS AND NO MORAL VALUE!
    This is why I usually look at the genre, tags, contents of the chapter and ask someone if the novel is good before I decided to read.

    As for what you said that you are like readin a nine year old book of Japanese novel. I think most of the jn here were written in amateur writer. I even felt like the novel were from a manga because of how they were written.
     
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    You know what, I even hate Chinese novel more than Japan novel for an reusing plot again and again for more money. After I read 100 chapter of Chinese novel, I stop reading for plot will be boring. At least at Japan novel had an slight eachi scene but Chinese, only because plot armor for them survive. An that plot armor. . . Is to much that I can't count if that can still be call an story.
     
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    Or the translators having all those fetishes or having bad taste in novel.. :D
     
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    Welcome to the crossroads , congratulations on reaching the halfway point in ur time as a novel enthusiast , now all u need to do to finish the journey is find that ONE novel that changes ur perspective Completely and shows just exactly what kind of genre is ur favourite . Believe me before u have that novel u don't know those particular elements u want in a novel and r not a Veteran Yet. I could recommend u the one that did it for me if u want but I doubt if it will work for you
    Anyway mine was Warlock of the Magus World.
    Find urs after that it gets easier Trust Me
     
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    I have a love and hate relationship with jp novels as i can't so myself from reading them even if i hate them:notlikeblob:
     
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    Donuts Endless surge of emotions

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    Well that’s Jp novel in nut shell LOL
     
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