LCD Death Mage

Discussion in 'Latest Chapter Discussion' started by lygarx, May 21, 2017.

  1. twinklecake

    twinklecake Professional Freeloader

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    I actually have a theory that the only reason Van isn't a god is because he hasn't died yet. All those heroic spirits and whatnot generally ascend after they're freed from their meatsuits to become spiritual entities.
     
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    Not only that but each of them have help from a god to become a familiar spirit. Van on the other hand is elivating himself to a godly position without the help of other gods.
     
  3. bloodemon666

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    I'm guessing it's that metamorph or whatever they called her who got drugged into losing her identity
     
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    its possible. heinz got the title inside the labyrinth and selena is still outside the labyrinth waiting for them.
     
  5. tirirism

    tirirism He who dealt it

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    I don't think it'll work on her. I think it will only work on those who know about the Holy Mother.
     
  6. codered999

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    Did you both forget that we already got an explanation for the title in chapter 197?

     
  7. Luukia

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    I truly wish to see Heinz dead... Ah.... Or at least I want Van to crush his soul to pieces so Alda and the other gods will go into panic mode.
     
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    tirirism He who dealt it

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    Ah. Yes of course. How could I forget? I think I am getting old. Van-sama needs to perform the reverse aging on me.
     
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    You can’t win, Alda.

    If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
     
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    I think Amemiya would be in opposition to Van because he "thinks death magic shouldn't exist". That might be all it takes. Otherwise I wonder what else might go down.
     
  11. twinklecake

    twinklecake Professional Freeloader

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    He'd have to kill his own daughter if the thinks that.
     
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    Then why was he trying to save the 8th Guidance members rather than kill them?
     
  13. Tensoku

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    That would be the case, huh...
    Hmm. I think his views on death magic changed after he heard how rampant everyone was to use it. How much influence it had on the people. That raid on 8th guidance also influenced his views on how destructive death magic could be.
    8th guidance were people Amamiya saved. Since Amemiya couldn't save Amamiya, himself, he wants to save what the Undead did save, the 8th guidance. Maybe in his opinion they don't need to use death magic, just live.
     
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    I think he has a clear cut between users and the attribute itself.
    Users are victims of the attribute and the only reason the attribute is bad, is the greed of the people.
    Because he can't get rid of the greed, he has to get rid of the attribute but it users are victims of it and need to be protected from the greed.
    That's how I view it, after all he is the type of hero that knows he can't change humanity that easily, learned it the hard way through the 8 guidance (what happened to them after they handed them over) , but wants to save as many as possible.
     
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    "Recently" in the Raws his exact position was stated, do do not click unless you want to be spoiled.
    He is not against the attribute existing, or people having it. His issue is the victims that are generated by people researching it, because every researcher seems to be an amoral slaver.

    In a place like Lambda where there is no group able to research it other then the actual users, so it is not generating victims, and his issues will all be addressed.
     
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    Damn!
    My hand is shaking from trying not to read that spoiler... :sweating_profusely::sweating_profusely:
     
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    It's not a major spoiler for Lambda, but one for Mei's circumstances. A number of us prior to that revelation already speculated that that reason was the case for Hiroto's strong views. There was already a high chance that Hiroto's family and Van would reconcile thanks to Mei's existence. The spoiler is just another step in that direction, nothing too major.

    Another reason is that Hiroto is not like Heinz (a follower of Alda's common sense) and is more like a remorseful hero like Farmaun (well not exactly, but in some ways).

    1. He has a real family to think about (Mei, his son, wife)
    2. He's an "invader" to Origin (not tied to ordinary common sense)
    3. Not as half-hearted as Heinz (Should know what real racism is and dark sides of humanity after experiencing it himself)
    4. He's not dense as other protagonists (although he is too trusting of Rikudou)
     
  18. Startarrot

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    In the case that Hiroto does know that mei is a death mage and van is protecting her, will rod leave those memories intact. It is stated that he can manipulate memories that go through his realm so deleting ones that make van look like a good person isn't off the table and it wouldn't be too far from his other methods.
     
  19. anteopta

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    it's only delete all or non, he is not able to fine tune it more than that. maybe someone of alda's subordinates can.
    I think that was in the last chapter or the one before it
     
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    No because he can erase the memories of the cycle of reincarnation. Remember how Venus (I think it was) had to use her memory ability to make her think of getting Van change her race. She didn't know why but she wanted to do it.
     
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