Spoiler Latest Chapter Discussion Thread for Death Mage Raws

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  1. TheZephyrStorm

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    Remember when they justified slavery by it letting people pay less taxes? Holy shit, they’re the fucking worst. They go through mental gymnastics for everything just to make themselves feel good. I worry the author will try to redeem them eventually.
     
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    Broxigar Well-Known Member

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    Van would still kill them.
    I think it was somewhere around chapter 70 where it clearly said he would never forgive them
     
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    Reman Scimitar Princess Zadiris Faction

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    Redemption is basically out the window, they got the Holy Mother Killer title, basically Vida wouldn't even forgive them.
     
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    Weren't the Hartner's enslaving people against the laws of the kingdom, and using them as labour for the mine, so Heinz is saying enforcing the law by punishing criminals, as EVERY soldier and guard there was guilty of the crime, and correcting an illegal act (which is kind of part of alda's thing) is wrong because it negatively affects those who had been benefiting from the crime.

    Keep in mind that from a proper rulers stand point (which does not exist here) slavery in general is bad because it LOWERS tax income, and negatively affects the economy. Each slave is a 0 on taxes, and spends no funds on goods. It benefits the owners and no one else.
     
  5. TheZephyrStorm

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    Ok, so in my reading, he just got the pale rider job and awakened netherworld god magic. Honestly, if his guider job awakens into something new or he gains another top tier, overpowered job, I don’t see how even a Bellwood powered Heinz could stop him.
     
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    2 chapters in less than 4 days, I think it's missed. :(
     
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    In my readings, Van has eaten his second god with a position and gained their position. It has led me to realize something. If Van absorbs positions and their functions, the threat of Rodcorte destroying all the worlds as he flees is reduced simply by Van eating him. Then Van would be a great god of reincarnation and that circle would likely merge with Vida’s circle. I’m sure Van has some high level control of that circle anyways.
     
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    kari-no-sugata Well-Known Member

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    Heinz is an unusual antagonist, particularly for the setting. If it wasn't for what he did to Darcia, he'd kinda be just another shallow Alda apologist / believer.

    That being said, if you think of an antagonist role as one that stands in the way of the protagonist (impedes the protagonist from achieving their goals) then he very much is one. Van's goal is happiness for him and those around him. While Heinz is a credible threat, he prevents Van from achieving that long term. And the harder Heinz works to become stronger, the more of a threat he becomes.
     
  9. TheZephyrStorm

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    So all the great gods except Alda have backed Van and yet Alda, for some reason, thinks everything is going to go his way. Maybe if it was just an injured Vida and a weakened Ricklett and space guy but Van has all six great gods behind him and his own power on top of it. Power that, at this point, most likely rivals the old demon king. Not to mention Van’s army which is filled its people as strong as evil gods (rank 12-14). Alda has totally gone mad.
     
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    What are the characteristics of the life empire so far?
     
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    Vida’s empire? It’s huge. Van’s guider powers have pretty much let everyone breeze through their ranks and jobs. Everything is a golem so nothing breaks and everyone is being watched. Very cultured since Kanaka and Zadiris are using their guider powers to spread princess, magic girl, and music stuff. Also, Van owns like two continents aside from this fifth of s continent that his capital is on. There are statues of him everywhere. He’s eaten god’s and gained their powers so that’s being spread with his blessings.
     
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    Nakakure Zadiris Empress Faction. NNN member Nr.1.

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    He also curently become major god in origin
     
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    What is the difference between a god and someone as strong as a god? I mean Van before and after becoming a god. Was there any major changes?
     
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    No real difference. The gods confirmed that they feel experience points too. It’s just not qualified by a system.
     
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    if you mean the demigods, they have a physical body and the process that their souls suffer when they die is still uncertain, but it is not only power that makes you a god, a god has an authority that gives him a certain domain or influence about for example a species, or in the case of the major gods an element. it is also that the gods are apparently immortal and can only be destroyed if they destroy their soul and possibly when they lose their entire mana.
     
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    About Alda lying to other and himself.
    Alda thought he is the one could only do.(Same as How Bellwood jealous and hate Zakkart while thought he was superior than other)
    Alda wish to receive other G.God aid by force them to do what he want when refuse, He will do the same as he did to Vida.
    Heinz is Alda chosen hero because both lied to other and themselves ,Heinz true wish is no different than Van while pretend to be Hero just for protect his self-satisfied happiness (Selen).
    Heinz save other, received praise from the mass whom know nothing and he blindly believe his false ideal was just.
    Alda believe himself as the one who guides Lamda while Heinz believe himself guide other to peace (with truly cause massacre, slavery, alienate, corruption and many more problem)
     
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    Mill mentioned that they got the “Enemy of Vida” title after Darcia declared that after they fought with Van. Honestly I really want them to meet a real follower of Vida and see the reaction. All the Vida followers that are working with the Alda “peaceful” faction are really just Alda followers.
     
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    Forgot that bit, thanks for the reminder.
     
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    hillo315 Intact but Tactless

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    Gods are responsible for the world and its mortals, mainly maintaining nature and guiding civilization. How they actually go about doing this varies. Furthermore, their phenomenal cosmic powers are restricted by their responsibilities and they weaken when they neglect those responsibilities.

    Gods are rank 13 or stronger. If they are any weaker than that, they become relatively useless, like Aqua. Useless gods without sufficient worshippers are rarely in a position to regain their power or avoid becoming even weaker, so they tend to incarnate into mortal forms before they can fizzle out of existence.
     
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    Heinz outright acknowledged when Van said ghouls were people and then declared that nothing is going to change cause it would make humans uncomfortable. Fuck that guy.