Question Why in every KRs and CNs, almost every couples surnames are different?

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  1. Masdtr

    Masdtr Active Member

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    if only modern background novels like this, it is understandable, but even if ancient background also like this
    in KRs and CNs almost every couples surname are different, include MC's parents and grandparents even great-grandparents
     
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    You mean you don't want to hear about the riveting story of Muhammed Wang?
     
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    Shio Moderator Staff Member

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    Of couse the surname will be different. You can't marry someone with the same surname. Same surname = same clan/family. The child will follow their father's surname, but the wife can still be called with their maiden name
     
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    BTTH's Xiao Yan and Xiao Xun Er :blobpopcorn_cool:
     
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    children seem can follow their mothers surname as well, in TJSS's Soul Land series there are some characters follow their mother even grandma surname
     
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    Diametric Waifu Connoisseur

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    Is it that surprising that the East came up with different rules for how names work in marriage to the West?
     
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    It's a traditional culture, you can't marry someone with the same surname. My grandparents actually had the same name, but in order to get married, my grandfather used a fake surname in registry.

    People nowadays don't really care about traditional rules, but it was apparently something looked down upon and being made fun of.
     
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    i remember in Korea and China wife or husband didn't need to change surname after married
     
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    It's rare, but there are case where a bride was taken into the girl's family to succeed the female family name. Another case would be the child not having legal father, so they must take their mother's surname.

    Ofc, the rules that I mentioned are the ones used in China and most asian countries. Author like TJSS could make up their own set of rules for his novel.
     
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    Normally in Asia the surname of the spouse doesnt change.
    Only the children takes after the surname of the father.
    That's why china (and many other asian country) wants a boy instead of a girl to continue the family line( through surname)
     
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    because in Asia they didn't marry their sister/brother/cousin like in Alabama....

    On serious note in Asia they didn't change name on marriage. only that the children will follow the father family name.
     
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    honestly USA same as well, there was a survey done a few years ago, only 22.5% of USA families prefer daughter to son

    P.S.: if my memories right, Japan has a rule: family member must use same surname
     
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    Japan being the exception. There, spouses have to share the same surname. Usually, it's the woman who would change their name, but there are an not insignificant number of men adopted into his wife's family so he'd be the one to change his name. In China it's a very different story and it would be extremely rare for a person to change his surname for any reason.
     
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    Bloodysin28 The victim of true evil that is reality

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    As a great man once said,if u have a son u have only 1 dick to worry about,if u have a daughter u have all of them to worry about
     
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    Wasn't she from Gu Clan, her real name Gu Xun er. She was called Xiao Xun er either because she was young (xiao=small) or as a cover for her.
     
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    rijimon17 Hope you can read the words

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    What is this east you speak of.
     
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    Myriadfold 『Silkmaid』『Ishhara's Devotee』『Daoist』『WW Vet.』

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    and even if we only consider the xiao vs xiao argument. thats only how it looks to us, in raws it would be written with a different character, thus different family.
     
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    Ai chan Queen of Yuri, Devourer of Traps, Thrusted Witch

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    In Classical China, they really consider incest as taboo. What do they consider incest? Everyone from the same clan, which means everyone sharing the same surname. Ai-chan read that in the Song dynasty, you're not allowed to marry anyone from the same clan from the same village. And since in many cases, a village has only one clan, you're not allowed to marry anyone from the same village. It's not a government law, it's just a common sense to them.

    That's one of the reason why they use matchmakers for every wedding. You can't expect everyone to go out adventuring for a bride. So once a child comes of age, the parents will give the biodata of their children to the matchmaker who was generally well-versed in Taoism rituals so that she can match them with someone from another clan who would fit the child.

    In comparison, they didn't consider bromance as a taboo.
     
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    Most of the time, "Xiao" isn't a surname. It's "小" which is a diminutive that works much like the Japanese "-chan" so it won't have anything to do with relations.

    Hell, depending on the time period, outright homosexuality wasn't a taboo either. For example, Han Wudi, the greatest of the Han Dynasty emperors, had a male lover in his harem.

    Also as a quirk of the Chinese clan system, women who marry into another family now belong to a different clan. So in effect, it was actually fairly common for even first cousins to marry one another because as long as a couple's fathers weren't brothers to one another, they'd have different surnames and hence would count as different clans.
     
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    So the letters in chinese for Xiao (small) and Xiao (family) are different.
     
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