Yaoi novels like a virus

I feel it's backfiring then because India is gaining on them last I heard.

 

I don't watch much, so I can't really comment. But, at least in my social circle, not much of the guys I know of watch (much of) K-drama or any drama, or actively try to find any drama to watch. So, for me, you are actually the exception, so cookies for you.

It's not that men wouldn't consume any josei/shojou at all, it's more,at least in my experience, they tend to avoid it more because it's "girly". My male friends tend to shrug off any of my recommendation with Josei/ Shojou on the tag, even when I said it's not very girly (ex: Immortal Rain manga. Even the drawing is not very shojou). I don't know if they actually read them in secret.

I guess you didn't really read what I post before.

 

The one child law.

 

Oh, I meant we have no way of knowing if Lucia's readship is primarily adult woman or teenage girls just from NU josei tag.

 

Sigh... Homophobes will be homophobes...
Don’t mind me, I’m just putting in my BL SOL Jdrama recs if anyone wants to watch some heartwarming BL with no (little) dogblood
https://mydramalist.com/27866-ossan-s-love (Must. Protect. MAKI.)
https://mydramalist.com/33093-ossan-s-love-2 (that table tennis ep dammit)
https://mydramalist.com/33088-what-did-you-eat-yesterday (diabeetus)
https://mydramalist.com/34090-fujoshi-ukkari-gei-ni-kokuru (Pretty deep for something about fujoshis)
https://mydramalist.com/30034-pornographer (hot af)
https://mydramalist.com/26026-does-the-flower-bloom (Has a manga)
https://mydramalist.com/21122-hidamari-ga-kikoeru (Has manga 2)
https://mydramalist.com/14051-udagawachou-de-matteteyo (Manga 3)

 

Thats pretty narrow minded of you.
I dont read BL either and block them out too
Having different tastes doesnt make one a homophobe

A good example is Frozen. Guys watch a lot of Shoujo

 

I'm in mobile, so it's quite a hassle.

 

Even after that was revoked. Plus even after the incentives were put into effect for each woman to have 2 babies.

 

If someone just doesn't like it and won't read it/blocks it and moves on then it's not homophobic.
If someone keeps whining about BL even existing, keeps making threads about "waahhh why is this thing I don't like popular", calls it disgusting/disturbing etc., keeps going out of their way to downvote everything with BL in it or, as seen on several streaming sites, keeps going to the comment section to express their disgust at the comparatively tiny number of shows with BL content then... Yeah, it's pretty homophobic.

 

You are assuming too much
Finding one person who does all of that is rare.
I won't continue this though
I end with this:

 

Did I say you were doing this? Nope. And finding a person who does this is... not rare. At all. Every single comment section for every single BL show is full of whiny homophobic people complaining that one show in thousands has traces of gay content. All the threads here where people complain about BL instead of ignoring it like any normal person, the constant "1" votes on BL novels that aren't even two chapters in, it's pretty pathetic but also quite common and not even a little subtle.
And no, posting that video is not applicable to this, no matter how often you post it.

 

Haha, I remember that used to happen A LOT... a novel I was reading used to have a rating of like, 3.5 stars... and then one day, it suddenly jumps up to 4.8 stars when all the 1-star ratings were removed NovelUpdates seemed to have went back and combed through all the 1-star ratings.

Hmm, I wonder if they have some sort of algorithm/script or whatever to detect if an account is a troll-reviewer vs. a legitimate review? (Maybe account age, the number of 1-stars ratings given to all novels of a particular genre... and I.P. address?— I do wonder if it’s just a handful of people making these troll accounts or whether they’re all different people).

It’s sad that there are people wasting so much of their time just to hate on something that has no impact on their lives.

It happens a lot in American media a lot too. Recently all of the new Movies/TV shows that do not predominantly star “Straight-White-Men” get a lot of hate from people complaining about “SJWs”, especially when there are women, gay characters, or non-white people in leading roles.

Homophobia, Sexism, and Racism has always existed, but I seem to have noticed an influx of it on the Internet in recent years. The rise of Social Media does give people a platform to air their shitty views. They’re now all over mainstream sites such as Facebook & Youtube, as opposed to back in the earlier days of the Internet when they were contained in their smaller communities.

 

Sheesh...
Given that shonen content is filled with homoerotic undertones and Japanese content are the most popular on here.
I find it hard to believe that this community is filled with homophobes.
At worst, this community is desensitized to it. Eg One Piece with Okamaland.
People have rated Qidan novels poorly.
Does that make then xenophobic?
People have rated all the awesome novels on my website poorly. Does that make them Wujigege-phobic?
Being a cynic is cool and all but humans see what we want to see.
If you choose to look at the world with yellow colored glasses then everything will be yellow.
Over and out!

 

Filled with homophobes? No.

But is there a segment that exists? Yes.

I’m saying that there is a portion of people who go around mass down-voting things simply for containing homosexuality, feminism, race-relations, among other “controversial” topics which they do not like.

It’s called review-bombing. From an article on wikipedia—

People are certainly allowed to dislike things.

If someone has read through a good potion of a novel—or have watched several episodes of a television series—and they still don’t like it, then that’s fine.

But it’s an entirely different matter when they downvote or rate 1-stars on a book they’ve NEVER even read. Or on a show they’ve never even watched.

It does happen.

Don’t you find it suspicious when a new book only has 1-2 chapters released, and there are dozens of 1-star ratings? What genres do you suppose this happens the most to? It’s not the bland-generic-slice-of-life stories.

I’m saying that when writer creates a work of fiction dealing with homosexuality, feminism, or racial injustice, they will tend to attract controversy. Although those topics shouldn’t be considered ‘controversial’ in the first place.

Regarding the “review bombs,” it’s not a unique phenomena that occurs on NovelUpdates or other novel-sites in general.

I notice this happening a lot in American media—A new Movie or TV Show is announced, and the trailer gets posted on Youtube.

The comment sections are filled with hate. People massively ‘downvote’ the trailer for something that isn’t even released yet. It gets so bad that Youtube will sometimes disable the comments/ratings or delete comments outright.

Again, people are allowed to dislike something. But why must they spend their time going around hating it and down-voting things? Especially things they’ve never fully read or even watched?

There is a lot of toxicity on the Internet. A lot of it happens to surround topics like homosexuality, feminism, and racism. And the stories dealing with these topics tend to attract an unproportionate amount of vitriol compared to any other subjects.

 

I am referring to this community. The internet is toxic, I have been on the receiving end but let's not overreact.
Like I pointed out, there is no proof that the same person who started this thread is the same person who is down voting novels.
It's all just assumptions and counter productive.
Here is one fact, many users of Novel Updates don't use Novel Updates Forum.

The world is a horrible place but if you are needlessly confrontational you end up hurting yourself.

Here is another fact, the average age on here is much younger than you think. Intent is important. For all the faults of this forum, there is no proof that it is filled with homophobes like on places like reddit.
Many lack tact sure but equating this forum to cesspools like reddit is incorrect.
Cheers!

 

I suppose I did go off on a long tangent...

I want to stress that I (personally) am not accusing any specific person in this particular thread of being homophobic; it’s just that the issue does exist.

I was just stating a general problem I’ve noticed on many review sites—and not just NovelUpdates— that there is a number of people unfairly leaving 1-star ratings on things they’ve never really read.

On NU, it just so happens that ‘Yaoi’ is one of the genres that this frequently happens to; I’m not saying it’s literally the only books that gets trashed, but I will stand that it is noticeably one of the more controversial genres when compared to others.

Again, I (personally) am not accusing any member in this thread of doing that— I was just making general observations that I’ve noticed that happens on NU (and among other review sites).

And I do feel the need to clarify—apparently you seem to think that I am calling you homophobic for having no interest in Yaoi. I’m not. I’m really not.

If someone has zero interest in Yaoi, and they filter it out because they have zero interest in reading it, then that’s fine. That’s not homophobic at all... But what IS questionable is when someone gives a story a 1-star rating simply because they don’t like the genre, or condemning the genre as a whole for merely existing (there is a difference between disinterest and active dislike).

Well, I’ve said all I have to say on this matter, and this will be my last post here... And I’m sure you can all breathe a collective sigh of relief